Possible SIM Spin-Off/Serial

23 Aug

No promises or timeline on this one, for various reasons, but feel free to tell me what you think.

I’ve had a vague idea going through my head of someone very different from Emily (Schooled in Magic) being dumped into the Nameless World.  No magic, for one thing; a soldier or policeman or something along the same lines.  I might do it as a non-canon story, or – perhaps – have them making fewer changes and generally having a more localised effect on the world.  I might even do it as a monthly serial – an adventurer ends up in the Nameless World and starts building a nest for himself.

Basically, it would be a little more like Lest Darkness Falls … with the hero setting out to create a small kingdom rather than save the empire or civilisation.

There would be little introduction of ‘new’ technology and the whole affair would be very localised, perhaps on the southern continent where Emily is a legend and the vast majority of people don’t believe in her.  The hero wouldn’t be a love interest or anything along those lines.

Obviously, surviving would be difficult.  My vague idea is that the traveller would encounter the Diddakoi first (The travellers I introduced in Work Experience) who would give him a basic background before dropping him off in a city, where he’d become a guard and eventually join the local army or something along those lines.  Maybe something along the line of Yasuke, although with a far happier ending. 

How does that sound?


36 Responses to “Possible SIM Spin-Off/Serial”

  1. Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard August 23, 2020 at 8:50 pm #

    Sounds interesting.

    And a “smaller” story set on the Nameless World could be a nice change of pace.

  2. Arusalan August 23, 2020 at 8:57 pm #

    Sounds like fun to me 🙂

  3. Daniel August 23, 2020 at 9:20 pm #

    I feel like this only works if the poor bastard is somewhat trained. Drop most of us into a medevil world with our magic of our own and we would die fairly quickly.
    So what resources can he bring with him? What skills does he have?
    Has to have a knack for languages as it’s clearly explained that they don’t speak English.
    How does this person respond to the “new learning”
    Etc etc.
    sounds like the start of a single player rpg

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard August 23, 2020 at 9:57 pm #

      One thing to remember is that it was established that the Nameless World has “translation spells”.

      If the “translation spell” is simple enough, a minor magic-user among the Diddakoi would be able to cast the spell onto the new arrival.

      So while he’s going to have an “interesting time” adapting to the Nameless World, speaking the language isn’t going to be a major problem.

  4. Jared August 23, 2020 at 9:31 pm #

    If it’s going to be apocryphal -lol- then perhaps Emily could pop in now and then to chat. It would be interesting for Emily to have someone to talk to and complain with. Lol

    I copied and pasted this. Lol

  5. Jack Hudler August 23, 2020 at 9:40 pm #

    The story could start when the encounter with adventurer encounters a dragon. Thus completing the loose end in SIM 1 when the dragon comments he hasn’t seen your kind in a long-time.
    Like the idea.

  6. Jack Hudler August 23, 2020 at 9:41 pm #

    The story could start when the adventurer encounters a dragon. Thus completing the loose end in SIM 1 when the dragon comments he hasn’t seen your kind in a long-time.
    Like the idea.

  7. SPINDOC August 23, 2020 at 9:41 pm #

    Very interesting, I did say somewhere I would like to see the world through a mundane’s eyes.

    I would say a sciencey guy/gal would be interesting. You will see them completely question themselves about how things work where magic isn’t quite the ‘sufficiently advanced tech is like magic’ thinking.

  8. Mike Brooks August 23, 2020 at 9:41 pm #

    It sounds like a fun read. I will buy it. I like fantasy more than science fiction, though.

    • Elodie August 24, 2020 at 1:37 am #

      Eh honestly would rather see a nameless world person in our world. Like a magicless peasant suddenly in a world without fear of being horribly abused but with a new struggle to survive. It just seems there are alrdy to many police stories like that were its a mystery of the week of them solving murder or hero coming becoming a soldier from anouther world. I’d still read it reguardless because I love your work but I wouldn’t be super excited about it.

      • chrishanger August 31, 2020 at 11:13 am #

        I’ve thought about something like that, but it would be hard to make it work.


  9. Roger King (avid reader of all CN books...) August 23, 2020 at 10:09 pm #

    As per Facebook page. If someone came over to The Nameless World and recognised the hand of Emily in introducing Earthly ideas, they might investigate and seek her out. Lot’s of opportunity for either mutual support or antagonism. Maybe even a Hail Mary to save the Nameless World from something Emily doesn’t;t fully understand to introduce bu that person does understand…

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard August 23, 2020 at 10:48 pm #

      Chuckle Chuckle

      Well, Chris has already said that the new arrival will arrive in an area of the Nameless World where stories about Emily are considered “Tall Tales” so stories about Emily would be “just stories” to him.

      Of course, the fact that Emily is “from another world” (just like he is) is known by only a few people and they aren’t talking about it.

      So he wouldn’t know that Emily is from “his world” and stories about what Emily is doing let alone what new ideas she’s introducing will be vague.

      About the only way this new arrival will be able to “tell Emily what she’s doing wrong” is if he arrived on her “door step” and Chris has already decided that they won’t meet.

  10. Gardner Friedlander August 23, 2020 at 10:39 pm #

    The outline has appeal, but the magic of the story (pun intended) will be in the character. As you’ve given it to us, it sounds like a single-character story for the most part. How is he going to develop? What quirks (in his background or just in his personality) will be in play? This is part of what makes your stories so good.

  11. Mike Strong August 23, 2020 at 11:24 pm #

    What I think would be interesting is if he comes over with modern weapons. Maybe he was a soldier in a combat zone and equipped with an M4 and sufficient ammo. This would make it a
    contrast with the magic of the nameless world.

    • Alejandro August 28, 2020 at 7:30 pm #

      Define sufficient ammo. A soldier can spend a lot of magazines in just one day. And having an M4 doesn,t means he knows how to make more.

      • Mike Strong August 29, 2020 at 5:00 pm #

        Making M4 ammo is definitely beyond the capabilities of the unnamed world. Depending on the story he could be driving a truck full of ammo for resupply in a combat zone. At the same time, depending on the story, he could have only 100 rounds. Either way would give him superiority over the current weapons in that world.

  12. Daniel August 23, 2020 at 11:46 pm #

    Now if time works “differently” in some ways. Drop a WW2 era soldier into the nameless worlds past. And that’s how the Empire came about…

  13. Thomas August 23, 2020 at 11:49 pm #

    Well well, first time I comment here but let me have my 2 cents on it:
    I would love to have a separate story in the Nameless World, a main char without magic sounds amusing there. Maybe have more humorous writing style in the stories? I can think of tons of funny jokes or encounters with magic and e.g. poor old guy who needs to get used to it 😉

    Additionally, what about him starting a life with the New Learning, before or after it was introduced by Emily? Maybe he was magically healed by a powerful magician, and have a better life in the New World? Could even be a link to good old Void and some explanation why some people in the Nameless World know more about Emily than others (poor patient had to tell where he is coming from) … he could also be a weapon crafter, builder/architect, engineer, or something of that sort to have a life there – or even a doctor who is applying modern medicine.

    Following the more humorous idea, you could even stay with SIM: Stuck in Magic 😀

    Long story short: More Nameless World please.

  14. wazman1930 August 24, 2020 at 12:27 am #

    Perhaps if the character could take advantage or build on top of the changes that Emily has introduced to the Nameless world. I think a Engineering Student would be ideal. He/she could take it to the next level like creating machines to make other machines perhaps or introduce electricity.

    Maybe at some point in there is a encounter between him/her and Emily. Would they be able to tell that they are not from the Nameless world based on their different attitudes.

  15. mrthorwahl August 24, 2020 at 12:32 am #

    I love this type of books. Displaced in time and space and having to survive. I’d buy all of it for sure!

  16. Elodie August 24, 2020 at 1:36 am #

    Eh honestly would rather see a nameless world person in our world. Like a magicless peasant suddenly in a world without fear of being horribly abused but with a new struggle to survive. It just seems there are alrdy to many police stories like that were its a mystery of the week of them solving murder or hero coming becoming a soldier from anouther world. I’d still read it reguardless because I love your work but I wouldn’t be super excited about it.

  17. Warren The Ape August 24, 2020 at 2:44 am #

    I always hoped you were able to write something where Emily goes back to Earth (temporarily) and takes Imaquah, Lady Barb, etc. with her. Just so they could get a whole new light on Emily, for the most part.

  18. Mike Thomas August 24, 2020 at 11:19 am #

    I would have thought that a person without magic should have something to give them an edge in the nameless world. Emily has had some experience of how difficult it is to fight against magic if you have none yourself. So some kind of protection – maybe something inside them that disrupts the magic, so magic only affects them weakly or not at all.

    I sort of like the idea of a policeman rather than soldier. Law seems to be something that only works for the rich and titled. Someone who can stand up for the rights of everyone would be a breath of fresh air.

  19. Thomas Tomiczek August 24, 2020 at 2:55 pm #

    I do not think it will work. This is more a short story. The problem is that a single character has nothing to really contribute. Emily had nothing but memories, but made them work as ideas through being a magic user and then having significant friends. A normal person would really be totally lost with memories and hardly an idea how to make them work.

    it would need to be a character that is someone who can carve out a place for himself AND provide interesting stories (again, a side character for SIM is easier, and a single title or two may work too). You need something to maintain a series, and I simply do not see this.

    • chrishanger August 31, 2020 at 11:14 am #

      It would be a stand-alone, if I did it.


  20. Mike August 24, 2020 at 9:14 pm #

    I really like the idea of some one from law enforcement comeing to the namless world. Someone with a strong sense of justice. I think where the story can really grow is where this character is broken. Perhaps he was a too strict father always quoting “the rules” and only when he realizes just how badly he has hurt his family “child runs away” or something he is taken to the namless world. With out magic himself it would be even harder for him to find a way back so he sets out to do what he couldn’t do in the lass world.
    Perhaps he could even make the same mistakes becoming a hero in his own eyes but a tirent or villain in those around him.

  21. Hanno Frerichs August 24, 2020 at 10:17 pm #

    Personally I like the stories from the Magicans standpoint, and had hoped too see a continuation with Emily or the book still taken place in an area were she is an important figure would also like to see how Emily is ones she is older. Of course I could see a noble or rich merchant or the like as a good possibility to add a different perspective to the world. .

    Also as noted a soldier or policeman sounds like a good idea maybe military police, or the like. it would need to be somebody fairly skilled in some way maybe when gun powder spreads to that area he will be able to use gun powder weapons and tactics a bit better then, most others being ennobled like Emily only to take charge when the next coup happens.

  22. Wyley Foster August 25, 2020 at 1:43 pm #

    This could be something very good, or something very average. The key lays upon whether or not this new character has his own life, and that in this novel is his own story, with all the things of a story as told to us by English teachers. And Emily is not probably even featured in this story not even as a rumor from a kingdom or two away from where she ever went to. In fact is she a decade away from entering the nameless world.
    There may have been ideas about the interaction of this character with Emily, I am calling him, Jack, but this should not occur till the second book or even later. Emily was a child in her first stories, Jack would have to be an adult, probably with some military experience, and the ability to live off the land so’s to speak. Make him something of a student of philosophy, not too religious, a strong sense of honor, knows not all people are what they seem, or keep their word. He should have an ear for language, or eidetic memory so the communication could be worked out quickly.
    He should not become reliant on magic, and magical items, but potions, healing, and other useful potions, nutrition, stay awake, etc. probably, and he can brew his own. He could have yeast to brew his own ales, thus brewing is not new to him. In fact he could use his own form of magic, learned it upon Earth, and it is called chi martial arts. His skills, both physical, and internal chi could aid him in defending himself against magic such as transformations, ducking fireballs, kicking the energy back into the caster, and such. Though he could not fly he could leap, run, throw, and use chakra and nerve points to get his rear end out of the worst magic could do to him. That and he does not face truly formidable magic users, like Void.
    So my idea this character Jack, served a term in the military, navy would be good, has a love for the sea. Being a child prodigy, and to the university, walked on parts of the Earth that are seldom traveled, learned many survival skills, became a trader in these places, and spent several years, maybe a decade in a monastery that is not on any maps learning his martial skills. He left the navy in good terms, but seen something some action that made him decide to see and travel the lesser known parts of this Earth. Then after a boring, but robust life he. “Falls into the purple whirly thing,” and ends up in the nameless world, at least a decade before Emily. Any technology except like a small sailing boat, a couple of guns, with mere hundred or two rounds, an electronics array that is worthless, well there is some copper, a tiny bit of gold. A combustion engine, soon to be without fuel, well it could run on alcohol, and a GP, that constantly tells you, “You have arrived.” Well that could sum up his gear.
    His gun could be a paradox gun, rifle, two barrels, over and under, rifle, shotgun combos, he could have several barrels for different calibers. Each barrel one shot, then reload, a popular hunting gun.
    As for Emily, well she is a non factor in this first story, and I am not going to throw my plan or rather ideals of what I think should happen.
    So my two bits, plus a lot of words.
    “Jack looked at the big cog flying colors of the X, his main sail was torn, and closing on him on his own boat was his attractive passenger. She is rather excited, scared of the proposal that she is about to be captured again, says “Do as you will, and make the stinky wind from your own backside, or just get this boat sailing faster!” Jack looked at his IC engine, it had seen better days, it had burnt better fuel, and now it just had to work. It had to work one more time, he was out of tricks, out of moves, and now out of time.”
    ?? My best of bad dialog. Well,,, smile and write a good story, the bad one is already done.

  23. Beth August 26, 2020 at 2:14 am #

    I think that it might work better if this character arrives “late”, after the New Learning has spread to a relatively wide degree and relieves the main character from needing to have to survive medieval conditions. Otherwise, it sounds like a fantastic idea that I would be very interested in reading.

  24. equestriaverse August 26, 2020 at 3:33 am #

    I think you could pull this idea off if you had a small group of people be “caught up” like this. I’m thinking a small PD or sheriff’s department with their families. They get plopped as far as possible away from the main action, and the local king/noble realizes that this is going to be one of those centuries, and if he can’t keep his family’s power, he can at least keep their wealth, navigate the rocks and shoals of the world changing, and hopefully keep their heads and torsos connected via their necks.

    The stories come from these odd circumstances and the odd variety of skills that show up. Maybe connect near the end of both series with Emily realizing that the road is asphalt and tries to learn where it’s made.

  25. Lorex September 1, 2020 at 6:12 pm #

    Perhaps the character could be a son or daughter of one of those would be conquistadors trying to carve out their own kingdom out of what remains of the Blighted Lands. Have them be familiar with the new learning and perhaps even socially progressive. If this continues for a few years maybe a republic could be created. Perhaps a good contrast to the monarchies of the north.

  26. Dale Switzer September 1, 2020 at 10:19 pm #

    How about a doctor? As a doctor, I keep thinking about how the work of Chiurgeons could be better if they were provided better tools which could be created by magic. A non-magical doctor paired with a Diddakoi healer could make amazing changes to the Unnamed World without the doctor caring a lot about Emily’s changes, except as it ends up killing more people.

  27. John J. Marko III September 8, 2020 at 3:27 pm #

    So this was where Emily’s real dad disappeared to? 🙄🤔😊🤩😁😎

    • John J. Marko III September 8, 2020 at 3:40 pm #

      Have him here since he vanished from her old life. He sees a painting of her at one point and the look of it makes him think of his old wife back on earth, but with his daughter’s name and now he has to find out just to be sure. Finds her out on the street by the house Hansdruble left to her. Says something along the lines of “I had really hoped I was wrong, but it seems that my little girl is just like her father. Getting sucked into another world, going on adventures, learning magic and saving the world from insane Necromancers who only want to destroy the world if they can’t have it.”. Ooooorrrr something like that! 😁😇😎

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard September 8, 2020 at 3:49 pm #

        LOL 😆

        Oh, by the way this new character isn’t Emily’s father.

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