The Gordian Knot–Snippet (1)

20 Jun

I’m not sure if this will be the final version, but it’s pretty close to it.

Prologue

“And I’m glad to announce that both of our picks for replacement Charms and Healing tutors have accepted their offers,” Grandmaster Gordian said. He allowed himself a thin smile at the whisper of relief that ran around the table. It had been a long meeting, even though they’d had a break for lunch. No one really wanted to prolong it any further. “They’ll arrive tomorrow and take the oaths in the Great Hall.”

He leaned back in his chair, silently enjoying the moment. Too many of the senior tutors were strangers to him, either through loyalty to Gordian’s predecessor or through ambitions of their own. He could count on them not to do anything that would actively harm Whitehall itself – their oaths would see to that – but he knew better than to expect them to follow him unquestioningly. And it was difficult, even for an experienced political warrior like himself, to edge them out of their positions. They couldn’t be dismissed for anything other than gross misconduct.

“You’ll be invited to watch and bear witness, of course,” he added. “Now, before we break up for the evening, is there any more business?”

Professor Lombardi cleared his throat. “The election of a Head Pupil,” he said, flatly. “I believe we are running short of time to nominate one.”

Gordian nodded, keeping his face expressionless. The senior tutors had the right to elect the Head Pupil for the year, if they wished to use it. He’d refrained from raising the issue, half-hoping they’d choose to leave the matter in his hands. There were pupils – several pupils – that he would prefer not to see elected.

“Very well,” he said. “Nominations?”

“Emily,” Sergeant Miles said, immediately. “I believe her record speaks for itself.”

“She had to retake four of her exams,” Gordian said. It was hard to keep the annoyance out of his voice. His feelings about his most troublesome student were decidedly mixed. “That does not suggest a sterling academic record.”

“She failed the exams because she was summoned to war,” Sergeant Miles countered. His voice was unyielding. “And because she was … involved … in that mess in Beneficence.”

Gordian groaned, inwardly. No two accounts of what had happened in Beneficence seemed to agree on everything, save for one detail. Emily had saved the city, somehow. If the more extreme reports were to be believed, she’d battled a god. Gordian wouldn’t have believed it himself, if he hadn’t read the reports that hadn’t been made public. He couldn’t help hoping that the full story – or at least the version he’d heard – never leaked out to the rest of the world. Too many sorcerers – and religious sects – would see it as a challenge.

“There are others,” Professor Gaunt said. “Melissa has very definite potential.”

“But she’s politically unacceptable,” Gordian said. “She was disowned from her family.”

“She does have the talent,” Gaunt insisted. “And she is … more aware of social situations than Emily.”

“Cabiria has talent,” Professor Thande said.

“She was suspended for a year,” Gordian pointed out. “What about Caleb or Cirroc?”

Sergeant Miles snorted. “And how many students have actually saved the school?”

Gordian met his eyes. The hell of it was that Sergeant Miles was correct. Emily was the only student who had saved the school. By any reasonable standard – certainly in terms of achievement – she stood head and shoulders above the rest of the students in her year. There had never been any sign that Emily wanted, let alone expected, to be Head Girl, but everyone else probably expected her to walk into the post. And she deserved it.

And yet, she was a menace too. He’d wanted to expel her last year, when he’d become Grandmaster. Putting her on probation – and forcing her to work with Professor Locke – had been done in the hopes of keeping her out of trouble – or convincing her to quit. It wasn’t as if she would have had problems finding a place at another school, somewhere well away from Whitehall. Gordian certainly wouldn’t have stood in her way.

She’s not evil, he thought. He admitted that, privately. But she’s disruptive.

He kept his face impassive as he contemplated his options. Nothing had happened openly – not yet – but he knew that more and more important figures were growing … concerned about Emily. Child of Destiny, Necromancer’s Bane … she was a knife that could cut both ways, something that could reshape the world or damage it beyond repair. A sorceress who’d bested two – no, three – necromancers would be alarming enough, but her … innovations had started a chain reaction she might not be able to control. And she didn’t seem able or willing even to try.

And she owns the school, Gordian reminded himself.

Gordian wouldn’t have believed that, either, if Emily hadn’t shown an astonishing prowess at manipulating and duplicating Whitehall’s wards. Even now, a year after she’d told him the full story, he still found it hard to come to terms with it. The Founders of Whitehall had been lost in the mists of time, known only by a handful of stories that contradicted each other more than anything else. And Emily had gone back in time, taught Lord Whitehall and his fellows the secret to controlling a nexus point, then returned to the present. It was unbelievable.

It was also intolerable. He was Grandmaster, not her. He’d worked hard to secure a position of boundless power and influence, only to see it turn to ashes. He couldn’t have a student in a position to overrule him, perhaps even remove him from the school. He’d already started a very quiet program to do something about the whole situation, but he doubted he’d have time to complete it. Too many people wanted something done, now. And they were pressuring him to force her to divulge her secrets.

He cleared his throat. “Emily has earned her reputation,” he said. “I do not dispute that. But would she be a good Head Girl? She is not the most … sociable of students.”

“She has a gift for making friends in high and low places,” Sergeant Miles reminded him, dryly. “And that has saved her life, more than once.”

“She’d be required to do more than make friends,” Gordian countered. “The Head Pupil has to do everything from organising the mentorship program to carrying out a project of their own. She would be distracted from her work.”

“The same could be said of almost anyone else,” Madame Rosalinda said. The Housemother smiled at him. “And while she is not that friendly with anyone outside her circle, she doesn’t have many enemies either.”

She tapped the table, meaningfully. “Melissa has been disowned from her family. Cabiria is seen as … as something of a freak. Pandora’s marks are too low to justify promoting her into the Head Girl role. Jacqui and Cerise are … are too power-hungry to take on the role without causing problems. And The Gorgon is …”

“The Gorgon,” Gordian finished. What, in the name of all the gods, had Hasdrubal been thinking? Allowing a Gorgon to study at Whitehall? “Are there no promising prospects amongst the boys?”

“None who match Emily,” Sergeant Miles said. “Cirroc and Johan are both working on Martial Magic, while Caleb … has shown evidence of moral weakness. And those three are the best of the bunch.”

Gordian pressed his fingers together, hiding his irritation. Jacqui had been his choice for Head Pupil, although Cirroc would have been a close second. The Head Pupil would find a multitude of doors opening for her, when she left Whitehall. It would give Emily the skills she needed – and probably keep her out of trouble – but it would also paint an even larger target on her back. Her enemies didn’t need more reasons to step up their plans.

She might decline the nomination, he thought. Does she understand that that would be held against her?

“Let us vote,” he said, instead. In hindsight, maybe he should have raised the issue with a handful of tutors privately. If nothing else, he might have been able to get Jacqui or Cirroc nominated before he held the final meeting. “All those in favour of Lady Emily, raise your hands.”

He counted, slowly. “Ten in favour,” he said. Five tutors hadn’t voted, although that didn’t prove anything. Professor Thande wasn’t known for caring that much about the position – or anything beyond his alchemical experiments. Gordian was surprised he’d even bestirred himself to put Cabiria’s name forward. “The motion passes.”

“As it should,” Sergeant Miles said.

Gordian shot him a sharp look. If he were forced to be honest, one of the reasons he’d allowed Sergeant Miles to take Emily to the war was an unexpressed hope she wouldn’t come back. The war could have lasted months, if not years. She might have been killed or moved straight to a more regular apprenticeship. Instead, she’d bested her third necromancer and returned to Whitehall.

“She’s due to re-sit her exams tomorrow,” Gordian said, calmly. There was one last card to play. “They’ll be marked immediately afterwards. If she passes – if she can enter Sixth Year – I will inform her of her nomination.”

There were no objections. He hadn’t expected any.

“I’ll see you all at the Last Feast,” he added. “Until then … dismissed.”

He kept his face impassive as his senior tutors filed out of the room, some clearly intending to head down to Dragon’s Den for a drink before the students started arriving to re-sit their exams. When they were gone, he sealed the wards and sat back in his chair, forcing himself to think. He was caught in a knot of conflicting obligations, of promises he’d made and rules he could not break …

And others are already moving against her, he thought. He’d heard rumours. Some of them had been nightmarish. What will happen when their plans come to term?

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200 Responses to “The Gordian Knot–Snippet (1)”

  1. Enwezor Nzegwu June 20, 2017 at 7:09 pm #

    Can’t wait for the release Chris!

  2. Jared June 20, 2017 at 7:17 pm #

    Nice !! I’m itching for more

  3. MorkR June 20, 2017 at 7:21 pm #

    Chris,

    Very much looking forward to it. Do you have an approximate date for publishing it?

    Gordian seems conflicted about Emily. In the first half he appears to loathe her (presence) at the school but in the second half he appears more concerned for her. Unless it is just my reading too quickly. Is he conflicted? He seems to have more reason to worry than to help.

    One thing that jarred. To me (in the UK) at my age (more professor than pupil), “program” will always mean a ‘computer software program’ whereas to my mind Gordian has, “…a very quiet programME to do something…”.

    • Bryce June 23, 2017 at 12:06 pm #

      I would also like to know an approximate release date?

      • chrishanger July 4, 2017 at 11:32 am #

        I can’t offer one yet – I have to write it, then get it edited.

        Chris

  4. Jack Hudler June 20, 2017 at 7:38 pm #

    Ho Ho! We are ratcheting up the evil machinations. I love it!

  5. kd7fds June 20, 2017 at 7:45 pm #

    She is going to hate being head girl…..

    • bretwallach June 20, 2017 at 8:08 pm #

      That was my very first thought as well.

      But on second thought, she didn’t totally hate being the baroness and she does really like to have a (hopefully) positive impact on the world and being head girl would enable that, so I think she will neither love nor hate it.

  6. William Ameling June 20, 2017 at 7:59 pm #

    I was not expecting Emily to be Head Girl, but the rest confirms what what I and others have suggested: there are others outside the School trying to move against Emily via various means, particularly by pressure on Gordian to push her out of the School. It also why Void made the unconditional apprenticeship offer to Gordian for Emily, and probably why Void made the offer only readable to Gordian and not to Emily (it revealed things that Void could not discuss with Emily).

    It occurs to me, now and in the past, that Fulvia is quite likely one of those doing this by indirect means via the network of favors owed to her even though she is no longer Head of House Ashworth. Also, there are those who want to rebuild the School of Magic at Heart’s Eye, who are a new addition to those who have been working against Emily in the past. It also relates to the change in title for the Book, the old title was Poison Pen, which is still accurate in a way: people are writing and saying bad things about Emily, and the person receiving the results of that effort is Grandmaster Gordian.

    By the way, how many students are left in Emily’s year? I would guess less than 20, but it sounds like it might even be only about 10 or so. Her class lost a number of students in the first 4 years during all the troubles, and then many left after the end of 4 years (which was normal). Considering that Emily(as well as others) was asked/tasked to watch over 4 first year students when she started 5th year, that suggests her class is (or was) about 1/4 the size of the first year class.

    • Dani June 20, 2017 at 11:38 pm #

      I’ve got Void pegged as the Villain. (E.g., I figure his apparent age keeps shifting as he steals time from people.) That gives rise to three possibilities – he’ll try to help and protect Emily because he hopes to use her, he’s going to turn on her sooner or later (not inconsistent with the first option) and maybe already has, he’ll continue to offer her occasional support because he thinks it’s a giggle.

      • Anita June 21, 2017 at 8:25 pm #

        Oh gosh I hope not, it would ruin the series for me. Not that I think he is totally good. I also think he was behind bringing Emily to the Nameless world to be used in the fight against the Necromancers, but that despite that he has come to care about her, not that it will stop him from using her. I hope we end up by finding out his back story at some point.

      • Seamus Curran June 22, 2017 at 8:04 pm #

        I’ve pegged him as the mysterious man at the beginning and end of the School of Hard Knocks, who was also behind the rebellion in Wedding Hells.

      • Bryce June 23, 2017 at 12:05 pm #

        He did offer her a full apprenticeship once she finishes school. I also think that is he was a villain that Lady Barb would know as she has known him from before. He is not totally good h looks at what needs to be done to finish his objective

      • Ihas July 3, 2017 at 5:30 pm #

        I think Void is Myrddyn, who allegedly earned a favor from a dragon and pulled the moon from the sky. Void called in a favor from the dragon that flew Emily to school. And I think that pulling the moon from the sky refers to creating the paradoxical time loop to change humanity’s destiny. Otherwise, how could Emily arrive in a future that couldn’t exist without the time loop that depends on her arrival in the future? Other candidates for Void’s identity are Whitehall, who’s end or disappearance is a mystery, and Jack the Strong, who’s portrait hung at Whitehall for a time and was brought to our attention. If Cloak is Void, that still doesn’t make Void a villain. Cloak ended Aurelius and took Nanette as apprentice in order to help Emily become whom she needs to be. Nanette isn’t trying to kill Emily anymore. She helped free Emily from under King Randor’s thumb and make her less indecisive and more ruthless. Now I think Nanette is Emily’s mentee, Tiega, or whatever her name is. She’s forcing Emily to walk a mile in Void’s shoes as a mostly hands off mentor with a suffering mentee.

      • Jared July 3, 2017 at 6:30 pm #

        I thought I would be crazy if Void turned out to be Master Wolf.

  7. William Ameling June 20, 2017 at 8:01 pm #

    Wow, 6 responses in less than a hour!! A lot of people must be checking your Blog pretty regularly, Chris (as well as care about what you are saying).

    • bretwallach June 20, 2017 at 8:11 pm #

      Nah. Or maybe, but for me it’s just an aggregator (feedly) that pops up blogs like this as soon as someone like Chris writes something. I mean, I really like what Chris writes, but no, I don’t check his blog every 20 minutes. 🙂

    • Anita June 21, 2017 at 7:51 pm #

      I’m subscribed to his blog, so get an email notification when he posts. But I don’t post comments very often 😉 also, he is in my facebook feeds, along with a lot of other authors …. I suspect that I’m not the only one that uses these methods to know when a new book is going to be published soon 🙂

      • Jared June 21, 2017 at 10:19 pm #

        I use those methods.

  8. bretwallach June 20, 2017 at 8:05 pm #

    “Caleb … has shown evidence of moral weakness.”

    What moral weakness? That he wasn’t willing to sacrifice his sister in the last book? How would any of these folks know that? Or something else that I’m not remembering?

    • Jensebaum June 20, 2017 at 11:11 pm #

      No matter how good the reports were, this shoudn’t have made it’s way into them. Very few people know, and I can’t imagine a reason why they would report it to the school.
      No, it has to be something different, but if it was already mentioned, I too don’t remember. Maybe Caleb has a secret of some sort?

      • benbailey12373 June 20, 2017 at 11:59 pm #

        Sergeant Miles knows about what happened in Beneficence . . . which is why he would comment on his lack of moral fortitide

      • Jensebaum June 21, 2017 at 6:01 pm #

        In front of the other teachers? And no one bothers to aks what he meant?
        Miles might know through Barb, but the rest should’nt.

      • Fatty June 22, 2017 at 12:20 am #

        My guess is that he is not a strong willed guy. like he tells Emily, Hes a scholar not a fighter. Faced with adversity he might choose the easy road and not the hard one. Probable what Mills means by that.

      • Vapori June 22, 2017 at 6:32 am #

        Or it was something in the other magic school stronghold, after all he didn’t pull thought.

    • Kell Harris June 21, 2017 at 6:39 am #

      Every mage that graduates from Whitehall offers oaths to the Allied Lands. Every Mage wither combat or mediator or regular mage is responsible for the safety of the allied lands. If Justice had escaped he would be a bigger threat then a necromancer. In a critical moment Caleb froze.
      And not only that, actually got in the way, and almost stopped it from being destroyed. This could have destroyed the Allied lands. The fact that it was his sister is the only reason why Caleb is not in trouble. It is understandable but it doesn’t speak well of Caleb.

      This has nothing to do with Emily this has to do with Caleb. Can he be trusted in a position of power? The head pupil is a leader among her peers. Aside from tutors the head pupil is in charge. Caleb just doesn’t have it in him. I agree with Freida he doesn’t have the nerve and he always hesitates. Another example would be when his Dad had disappeared everyone was urging him do do something or at least make a decision. To go or don’t go. Caleb is just like “I don’t know what to do.” I kind of expected something like this in the 8th book. When Emily faced Master Grey Caleb couldn’t even bring himself to watch. sigh

      Caleb is smart and talented but he is a scholar not a fighter or a leader. I don’t think a lot of people will know but Emily told Barb and I bet Barb told Miles. Now a big question can Emily break her social bubble? Emily has been a Baroness and she is a fighter who knows what needs to be done. But this is another position of leadership different but similar to a barony. This time she is a leader among her peers.
      How will she fare? Maybe it will give her experience for when she opens her school?

      Questions Mr. Nuttal

      Did you decide to go a head and write Gordian’s knot after all? Project time?
      Another In sergeants apprentice when Gordian said that the General would be her Father in law, Miles was like IF it goes through. Did he maybe expect it to fall apart?
      Also this has been bothering me in Infinite Regress Emily got back to the control panel and noticed the guards have been mind control but a strange advanced compulsion spell. I always thought Emily did it upon returning but it wasn’t mentioned in past tense. Was it Emily or another mystery

      Here is a slight correction not to nit pick but in Fists of justice when Freida used the berserker charm Emily reflects how the one time she used it she almost died but Jade was there. Didn’t Emily use it again in book 2 and the Healer told her not to do it again. The phrasing seems to imply she only used it once.

    • Anita June 21, 2017 at 7:56 pm #

      That sentence about Caleb bothers me, too. I think something like “poor judgment” or “lack leadership abilities” would work better.

    • chrishanger June 22, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

      The guy I based Miles on was a Recruiting Sargent in the British Army – he was very good at evaluating people.

      Chris

  9. benbailey12373 June 20, 2017 at 8:07 pm #

    Oooooh tingles of excitement!

  10. Terrie June 20, 2017 at 8:09 pm #

    Oh no a cliffhanger. I can hardly wait to read the rest of the book.

  11. daniel June 20, 2017 at 9:22 pm #

    interesting start. so emily is going to “help” gordian figure out political and power problems i guess

  12. clbeam June 20, 2017 at 10:03 pm #

    I thought the next sim book was poison pen that’s what good reads says and i think thats what the offical website says I would like to now if this is the book real name or these other site need to be updated

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 20, 2017 at 10:09 pm #

      Chris renamed “Poison Pen” to “The Gordian Knot”.

      I don’t know what the “official website” you mean (Chris’s website).

      • clbeam June 20, 2017 at 10:12 pm #

        ya that’s the one
        http://www.chrishanger.net/Upcoming%20Books.html

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 20, 2017 at 10:28 pm #

        Well Chris may be a “writing machine” but he’s still human so he missed updating that. 😉

      • chrishanger June 22, 2017 at 6:03 pm #

        Fixed now

        Chris

  13. Sarah June 20, 2017 at 10:17 pm #

    Excited to read the book! The snippet really tells about the knot. It will be interesting to see which way Gordian will sway. Unless he plays it like Alexander?

  14. Jensebaum June 20, 2017 at 11:05 pm #

    Veeery nice! Finally, the world outside Whitehall catches up with what happens inside the school. So far, Hasdrubal has made the consequences of all the (near) disasters simply disappear, it will be interesting to watch what happens now. Can’t wait to read more!

    On a different note, I don’t really get the concept of head girl. Must be something British? What does the position mean, and why would turning it down reflect badly on her?

    • Vapori June 22, 2017 at 6:58 am #

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_girl_and_head_boy, some form of student representative, Today, it would mostly be something along the lines of give a speak on public school events, leading discussions on a student council. Represent the students in front of the teachers and stuff like that. In a boarding school and with students who have political power on their own, it will be more important then today.
      But even today it looks quite good on ones certificate.

      Turning it down again would be counted against her for different reasons, the first of it would likely be that the teachers in whitehall would need to met again to pick a new headgirl.

      The second one would be that, a responsible student should accept such a position, if he or she is deemed the most suited for it.
      No, need to bother to raise someone to be a leader if the student, doesn’t accept the leadership role in the future.

      • Jensebaum June 22, 2017 at 3:37 pm #

        Thank you for the explanation!
        The concept still strikes me as somewhat strange, personally I never came in contact with anything comparable, but let’s see what Chris does with it, could be interesting.

      • Jared June 22, 2017 at 6:01 pm #

        It’s not that much different then school president. Which just about every high school in the United States.

    • chrishanger June 22, 2017 at 6:04 pm #

      The short answer is that the Head Pupil (Boy or Girl, depending on who gets the post) has a considerable degree of authority over the student body. (In the UK, this varies from school to school – some private schools do have a head boy/girl, but their powers vary.

      Chris

  15. Clarke June 21, 2017 at 12:39 am #

    Cool!

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  16. William Ameling June 21, 2017 at 1:03 am #

    Actually it seems to be like the Harry Potter books that had a Head Boy AND a Head Girl . I was assuming that this is typical of boarding schools, particularly British ones. Also in Book 5 when Emily was at Mountaintop, I think that Markus was Head Boy and Nanette was Head Girl at the same time. Wasn’t Aloha Head Girl last year (year 5 for Emily) ? I would have expected Whitehall to have both a Head Boy and a Head Girl.

    Rereading the snippet, I think that I count 7 girls’ names mentioned and 3 guys’ names. I suspect that my estimate of 20 (possibly 25 or 30) students left in Emily’s class is about right (and it might be less than 20).

    I doubt very much that Emily was expecting to be Head Girl, or will want the position, but apparently she is going to be it.

    I wonder if Gordian will end up resigning (or offer to resign) rather yielding to all the pressures being put on him about Emily.

    I also wonder if we will finally see Fulvia come out where we and Emily can see her? Maybe Emily will get a chance to deal with her at some point (in a more permanent fashion, or permanently discredit her with the entire Magician community). I would love to see Melissa have a major role in taking down Fulvia.

    Apparently we are not be going to be seeing any more Book story telling about the rest of Emily’s 5th year and trying to pass her tests and finish her project with Caleb. I was hoping to see more about the finish of 5th year for her.

    • chrishanger June 22, 2017 at 6:05 pm #

      There’s only one Head Pupil (Boy or Girl) per year at Whitehall.

      Chris

      • Conrad C Bassett June 23, 2017 at 6:30 pm #

        Emily will hate this. She will have to dole out punishments etc. This should make Emily’s day. Hell she may even go to Lady Barb and thank her for not thrashing Emily more often.

  17. Jared June 21, 2017 at 1:35 am #

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  18. Kaesha June 21, 2017 at 2:29 am #

    Love the beginning snippet Chris! Can’t wait to see what Emily ends up doing in this book. You know out of all the little clues or loose ends you leave in books to be brought up in future books I always keep getting drawn back to the fairy Emily set free, and the deal she made with it. Loving the fact that when/if we tie that end up it will have already been so many books between people will have forgotten about it. Thus a great surprise that’ll be.

    • chrishanger June 22, 2017 at 6:05 pm #

      I haven’t forgotten it

      Chris

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 22, 2017 at 6:08 pm #

        The Fairies won’t let you forget about it. 😀

  19. G June 21, 2017 at 3:01 am #

    Has Emily been taken off probation, then?? You might add some thoughts in Sergeant’s Miles head about how hard he and Barb worked to tutor Emily over the summer…and Emily’s progress…

  20. Michael holzapfel June 21, 2017 at 8:11 am #

    Haha! This is going to be a cracker!
    Very interested in seeing how things progress ie what the background programmes are, if the white council wants to force answers from Emily, if demons will show up again, any more innovations from Emily…..and of course what’s going to happen in Cockatrice and Void ……can’t wait!
    PS.. here is a question. Would it be possible for someone to turn into a mimic and then be turned back into a flesh and blood human? Maybe keep blood samples, memories, ovaries/sperm in reserve?

  21. Shanice June 21, 2017 at 9:08 am #

    Love it!!! Can’t wait for it to be finished!

  22. Don June 21, 2017 at 9:17 am #

    I will love it that Gordian want to take back control of the wards and Whitehall from Emily.
    It may turn out that Emily take formal control of Whitehall and she has Heart’s Eye. Two nexus points.

    At the end people should be careful that enemies and they actions don’t force Emily to give the magic battery to Void. Near Necromancer powers with so much talent and knowledge will be truly frighting.

    • Max Million June 22, 2017 at 1:31 am #

      Emily also thinks she knows how to restart nexus points that aren’t currently active. There are several such places mentioned in the books. If nexus points allow travel through time, they probably can allow travel through space.

      If nexus points allow travel through space they may allow spells to be moved through space.

      The secret project Emily should work on is how to access the power she has when in control of a nexus point away from the nexus point. This may be less power away from the point than at the point or it may not. The other ability is running spells at the nexus point while absent from the point. Remote control would be a concept Emily knows.

      Max

      • gzolin June 22, 2017 at 11:00 pm #

        I’m don’t think it should be less power unless there’s a bottleneck in feeding power somewhere. I forget specifically which books it’s mentioned in, but pocket dimensions have coordinates. Emily’s battery is a pocket dimension where she stores her own power. What if instead, she creates a battery that siphons power from a nexus point. She devises a valve to access the same coordinates. Instant access to nexus point power…

  23. William Ameling June 21, 2017 at 10:48 am #

    For all we know Void (and maybe others) may already have his own equivalent of the battery.

    We already know that it is the sudden rush of huge amounts of mana that drives new Necromancers mad. If they could slow the rush down and spend some of the power (or store it in a battery quickly enough) before getting more of it they might retain their sanity a little longer. However, we know from Past Tense that magicians can also go Mad just from holding onto too much power in their body and brain, even without Necromancy. In its own way Mountaintop was acting like a Necromancer without driving individuals mad by putting the power into the Wards protecting the School, which is not that different than Emily and her batteries, and almost as dangerous if what Mountaintop doing was copied on a large scale. In fact Void may have used (or hoped for) Emily to change what Mountaintop was doing because he considered it too dangerous.

    Even Emily thinks that Gordian is trying to find ways to get more control over the Wards of Whitehall, and she doe not blame him. She is aware of what might happen to the School if she dies and no one (or thing like the Warden) has adequate control over the Wards and the Nexus Point, look what happened in Infinite Regress (book 9).

    • Gzolin June 21, 2017 at 10:29 pm #

      Emily should have enough knowledge to re-create the warden. I believe that process was discussed during Emily’s trip to the past and some of that was built into the control room functionality.

    • Max Million June 22, 2017 at 1:38 am #

      Void has his own way of storing massive amounts of magic in his wards so probably doesn’t need a battery which is more limited (burns out valves and single use).
      If Gordian tries to gain complete control of whitehall wards (and probably can’t without understanding the programming) Emily should evict him from the school. Bad behaviour should have undesirable consequences.
      Hopefully Emily is still a probation student as I don’t want her taking any oaths. Alternatively as a founding member and owner of the school they should exempt her from the oaths.

      • Vapori June 22, 2017 at 7:03 am #

        Maybe an oath on whitehall will have little power over her, swearing loyalty, to a building you basically own? You could also swear on oath that you act according to your own standards.

  24. georgephillies June 21, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

    One might wonder if the spells controlling the other Nexus Points were copied from Whitehall without understanding them perfectly enough, in which case Emily — intellectual property rights — actually owns the lot of them.

    • Vapori June 22, 2017 at 2:33 pm #

      The nameless world hardly has something like intellectual property rights.

      • georgephillies June 22, 2017 at 7:22 pm #

        The intellectual content of the wards makes her the admin level user unless it is changed.

    • chrishanger June 22, 2017 at 6:06 pm #

      She doesn’t. Ownership – in this case – comes from being linked to the wards.

      Chris

    • Derek June 23, 2017 at 7:19 am #

      I believe it’s mentioned several times in the series that Whitehall’s nexus point is the only one that’s controlled, any others that have been used were merely tapped. That until Emily came back from her time travels, no one knew how to control them.
      The only reason she knew how is because of the inside look at the spells she got while fighting Shadye.

  25. Jared June 21, 2017 at 6:09 pm #

    I have been reading the series over again. I just started to read SA. And I have to say Gordian played his part well. In chapter one he seems so concerned about sending Emily to war. The we read this snippet and find out that he was secretly hoping for her to die. He is very deceitful.

  26. Anita June 21, 2017 at 8:40 pm #

    I just reread the entire series again too.

    One thing I did notice reading them back to back is that Emily is showing more self confidence and growth, not enough if my opinion, but it is there and I do think considering how long she has been in the Nameless World and everything that she has accomplished she could show a bit more, perhaps being Head Girl will help that along.

    The other thing that I noticed and bothers me is that there are a lot of loose ends that I would like to see some of them resolved or at least started on the path of resolution, perhaps this book will help that along some.

    Someone posted a bit ago about the Wards at all of the other schools being similar to Whitehall, it has been mentioned I think more then once, that no other school had wards like Whitehall which is one of the reasons they wanted to explore the tunnels under the school, in the hopes of finding information on how to set up those wards.

    I really hope at some point the development of Hearts Eye will be included in a story and I’m looking forward to her apprenticeship with Void.

    • Don June 22, 2017 at 3:57 am #

      I have to agree that there is lot of loose ends that should be look at in this story.

      I think that is what people want to force out of her. The secret of the wards of Whitehall. I hope void is more in this story to help and protect her. I think Emily needs true father figure who have her back so she would be more confident in the future. Don’t forget she is still very young for the amount power and influence she have. More importantly powerful enemies.

      • Kell Harris June 22, 2017 at 7:07 am #

        I don’t think having a true father figure is that important. Emily should be trying to stand on her own. Void and Lady Barb are crutches that she relies on too much. I think that’s one of the reasons Void sent her to school. Emily tries to get very dependent. She seeks father figures from Miles and Barb and she wants them to adopt her. She wants Void to adopt her. I don’t think Void being her Father is what she needs to stand on her own I think it’s the opposite. Emily her self needs to take the intuitive. Void can teach her magic but he shouldn’t have to be there to hold her hand. That’s what I think anyways.Part of the reason why Nunette is being manipulated is cause of this same Daddy issues. Emily needs to grow up from this.

      • Don June 22, 2017 at 8:07 am #

        What I mean is a father figure as in a person who would be there under any condition and support and fight for her. As I said she is very young and have that truth back of her mind will allow to grow into independent person she would be. The enemy she has is not some young, equal level as her, people but very powerful with lot of years to gather their power and influence that will use all they have to attack her and get what they want from her. She did not even finish her 6 years of schooling yet and then she have to go into apprenticeship then to get her mastership.

        She has been left allow because of what people think the relationship between Void and Emily but even that has been weaked it seem to see that enemies are taking actions in preparation of attacking her.

      • bretwallach June 22, 2017 at 5:12 pm #

        Kell Harris wrote: “She wants Void to adopt her.”

        Void did adopt her, didn’t he? That’s why she has the family ring on her finger.

      • Kell Harris June 25, 2017 at 7:48 am #

        Void did not technically adopt her. She asked if the ring meant that he was her father and he dodged and said it meant that she was apart of his family. But he is not wearing a ring himself as her father nor did he even mention doing an adoption ritual were she becomes his blood. I think Void is avoiding that for his own reasons.

  27. Roxanne Piotrowski June 21, 2017 at 11:04 pm #

    You’re such a tease.

  28. georgephillies June 22, 2017 at 12:31 am #

    When will this start appearing on Baen? Or will it?

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 22, 2017 at 1:39 am #

      Sadly, Chris isn’t published by Baen.

      • georgephillies June 22, 2017 at 7:20 pm #

        I was thinking of the Baen Slush pile.

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 23, 2017 at 2:12 pm #

      If I understand what Chris said in the Beta-Readers email, he’ll start posting snippets sometime after June 5th.

  29. Donnie Mac June 22, 2017 at 2:37 am #

    If the important figures are concerned now, how will they react when they learn that Void has offered Emily an unconditional apprenticeship. I am sure that Lady Barb was not happy.

    This book appears to possibly be the best one yet! Thank you Chris.

    • G June 22, 2017 at 4:48 am #

      It’s strange that in all of Gordian’s internal thinking about how her enemies will begin moving against her he doesn’t once think about Void’s response to those enemies–and Void is known as an incredibly powerful, skilled, and utterly ruthless Lone Power…The whole reason Master Gray contrived a duel with Emily was so Void couldn’t obliterate him (at least publicly). Any public attack on Emily should draw a very drastic object lesson–otherwise Void’s reputation would suffer. Finally, as Grandmaster, if Gordian allows Emily to be attacked doesn’t his reputation suffer?

      • georgephillies June 22, 2017 at 2:21 pm #

        You raise an interesting point. It might occur to some of these people that killing or whatever Void’s daughter might annoy Void.

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 22, 2017 at 2:46 pm #

        Remember the Prologue to “School Of Hard Knocks” after Cloak warns certain Plotters about Void?

        The open response was “but Void is keeping very hands off with his daughter”.

        Mind you, I think there was also a “but we won’t get caught mindset”. 👿

      • G June 22, 2017 at 4:55 pm #

        Actually, it was more “I don’t think Void will care so long as she is taught and not harmed…and she won’t be harmed.” They’re contemplating harm–Void will care. And when Aurelius crossed that line, Cloak (who I think is Void) killed him…

      • bretwallach June 22, 2017 at 5:27 pm #

        Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard wrote: “…after Cloak warns certain Plotters about Void?”

        Master Ashfall also warns about “provoking a confrontation” with Void in that same meeting.

        On the other hand, there’s also: “She’s an inexperienced child,” Cloak said. “She can be manipulated.”

        So I’m not sure exactly what Cloak seems to be warning them about since all they were voting on was to manipulate her.

      • bretwallach June 22, 2017 at 5:36 pm #

        G wrote: “Cloak (who I think is Void)”

        Why do you think that?

        There’s a fair amount of admittedly circumstantial evidence against. For example:

        “The existing order has to go,” Cloak said [to a dying Aurelius in School of Hard Knocks]. “I believe you know that, don’t you? All your plans to reshape it into something more viable, something that could fight the Necromancers and change the world. But I fear that would interfere with my plans.”

        Yet many actions of Void are to support the White Council and fight necromancers, for example at the end of The Sergeant’s Apprentice.

        Also, if he wanted to manipulate the Child of Destiny, why on earth would he turn her over to Whitehall and then take a very, very long arm’s length approach to interacting with her?

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 22, 2017 at 5:45 pm #

        *IF* Void wanted to manipulate Emily, he’d likely want her to be “powerful & skilled” enough to be a good “tool”.

        I believe that there’s some truth in his expressed concerns about “his ability” to provide the early “magical education” that Emily would need.

      • G June 25, 2017 at 9:06 pm #

        To answer Bretwallach, I don’t think Void so much as supports the white council as he cooperates with it when it is in his interests to do so… My guess is that Void is more active politically behind the scenes then people know, possibly with multiple false identities to infuence various groups. I think he probably apprenticed under another Lone Power, that some knowledge of Emily survived in secret from Lord Whitehall’s time, and that he knew a child of destiny was coming. I think he is using her, but that he has also come to be fond of her…and wants her as a successor. But these are all guesses…

      • Vapori June 27, 2017 at 10:45 pm #

        Void is such an interesting character, as we really only have hints. some of the powerful mages like Cloak Nanettes Master, Fatty, and Void have been shown, but never in a way that would be a full characterization, so I’m looking forward to the apprenticeship book.
        I wouldn’t bet on anything void related, but he looks a bit like a Dumbeldore char: He seems to have a strong Morale codex in some form, and is strong enough to offend many in the allied lands without facing a backlash.
        He seems to fight the necromancers quite hard, as he was the one who saved Emily from shady, and also the one who fought the Necromancer directly in the end of TSA also he has no family spells that he could share with Emily
        I wouldn’t be surprised if his family died to the necromancers.

        Then the book he had given Emily at the start of the first book, something from his masster and with quite a few powerfull spells inside.. and also some useless or worthless stuff.
        We can likely assume that Void had also learned from a lone power or at least a very eccentric and strong mage.

        If my guess is right he has a strong agenda and he is very willing to dirty his hands to archive that goal, but he also seems carefull or controlled enough to not overstep himself. he could of course be an schemer, with long term goals but I doubt that he has a Masterplan with minute detail most such plots go along as the opportunity arises.

        I’m fairly sure that he had seen Emily as a possible successor and alley early on, and tried to push her in the right direction from time to time when he had the opportunity to do so,
        How much of it might be amoral or betrayal will surly revile itself over time.

  30. Max Million June 22, 2017 at 7:29 am #

    OK Emily didn’t pass her exams because she went to war, etc. Bo Ho. Well Miles was also away so how did that effect the other MA students – they wouldn’t get his teaching and training during the same time. Also Emily did more experience in working with other mages and the apprentices were so poor at the activity that I wondered how they passed their own 5th year.

    • Don June 22, 2017 at 8:11 am #

      So when has school course work same as practical experience?

      Also you assume that Whitehall could not get a temp teacher in place of Miles. Where does it say she failed her examines?

      • Kell Harris June 22, 2017 at 4:25 pm #

        Don Max isn’t criticizing Emily he is saying she got more experience going to war. Also it said in the snippet that Emily failed 4 of her exams and is retaking them.

      • Jared June 22, 2017 at 5:52 pm #

        She didn’t fail her tests. She hasn’t taken the test yet. The concern was that since she missed most of fifth year she may be unable to pass them.

      • Kell Harris June 25, 2017 at 7:59 am #

        She had to retake four of her exams,” Gordian said. It was hard to keep the annoyance out of his voice. His feelings about his most troublesome student were decidedly mixed. “That does not suggest a sterling academic record.”

        “She failed the exams because she was summoned to war,” Sergeant Miles countered. His voice was unyielding. “And because she was … involved … in that mess in Beneficence……..
        “She’s due to re-sit her exams tomorrow,” Gordian said

        If she missed the exams because she was gone then she would have missed all of them not just 4. No to me this means that she failed four of them and they gave her a chance to re sit those exams as it says. That’s how I read it.

    • chrishanger June 22, 2017 at 6:09 pm #

      Sargent Miles had a substitute. Unfortunately, Emily couldn’t send in a substitute student

      Chris

  31. thehub June 22, 2017 at 8:04 am #

    i think emily will be fine as head girl. she will not like it but she will do it. i seem to remember that melissa has said to emily that she will help her in political questions when the time came. is think it was as thanks for her help with markus and ther live.
    i do have a question for chris …. how much control has gordian on the wards of whithall? can he change a lot or even see the whol programm? does he understand it even?
    what happens when his “small” programm caused a error in the wards again? Emily as owner should see everything he does to the wards and counter it or see where it goes….
    it is a rule for powerfull people to have enimies that wants to destroy you…. emily has become rapidly more powerfull (magic and economic) than everyone has imagint.. and people in power ( throw blackmail, money etc.) dont want her become more popular.
    she is well liked in her barony… she has helped a lot of poor people to make ther live better and most of her people have more money than ever bevor in ther lives ( her barony is the only one without an rebelion).
    the people in power ( or think they have power) want her gone bevor she can great a solid base with allies.
    wow i realy cant wait to read that book……

    • chrishanger June 22, 2017 at 6:10 pm #

      Put it this way. Gordian has Super-User Rights; Emily has Admin Rights. As long as she’s in the school, she outranks Gordian.

      Chris

      • Dan June 22, 2017 at 6:46 pm #

        Could she kick him and everyone else out of the system? And if so why has Gordian knot forced her to give up those powers?

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 22, 2017 at 6:50 pm #

        Only somebody with “Admin Rights” can negate her “Admin Rights”.

        Gordian can’t “force” Emily to “give up” her “Admin Rights” and very likely is concerned about giving an order that he can’t enforce.

      • Dan June 22, 2017 at 7:04 pm #

        He could bully her into it a guy like that could definitely put pressure on her in sneaky ways although it could backfire it might be safer than allowing a young easily influenced young woman to retain that kind of power. Emily has shown she has very little ability to remain in control of a situation and will repeatedly react to situations in a very explosive and unpredictable manor. Making her a wild card all it would take was one bad situation and she could do real damage to his authority. And the authority of the school itself. How would people react if they knew Emily and knot Gordian had control of the castle.

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 22, 2017 at 10:53 pm #

        The problem for Gordian is that attempting to “bully” Emily could have worse results than he’d like.

        So far, Emily has said nothing or done nothing to indicate that she controls the wards not him.

        So as long as she remains quiet about that, IMO he’ll just worry about it not attempt to “bully” her in anyway.

        After all, he knows what happened when Master Grey bullied Emily. 😉

        For that matter, I think Emily suspects the “problems” that she’d be in if her “Admin Authority” over the Whitehall wards becomes known.

  32. mathias June 22, 2017 at 12:25 pm #

    a promising title!

    as i recall alexander cuts the gordian knot with his sword …
    ( in my opinion beheading the grandmaster trumps a deadly duel with a teacher 3:) )
    or was it by pulling the pin ?
    ( i am not sure why i have suddenly the picture of a quickly deflating balloon in my head )

    following the general guideline of bad luck of all – let´s say – emilys opponents, i fear gordian will not enjoy this year.

    being head girl will surely put just more pressure on emily. honestly, i had hoped this chalice would pass emily.

  33. William Ameling June 22, 2017 at 4:10 pm #

    I still wonder about the Head Pupil versus Head Boy AND Head Girl. Mountaintop had both at the same time and I would expect Whitehall to have both.

    Master Gordian does not view Emily as an enemy, but as a problem he wants to see leave Whitehall. I think that the events of Infinite Regress and the end of Past Tense have taught him to be VERY careful about any changes to the Wards of Whitehall. In fact, he should ask for Emily’s help and cooperation to make sure something like Infinite Regress does not happen again.

    When is Emily going to tell Lady Bard, Miles and Void about the events of Past Tense? They are the only ones that she needs to tell and I think that she should.

    I think Void may be protecting Emily more than we or she realizes, but is protection against things that she can not see, i.e. senior magicians on and off the White Council who are worried about her and the changes she has brought.

    • Dan June 22, 2017 at 6:49 pm #

      I’m not sure void is protecting her that much i think it’s more the threat of him that gives people pause. He also definitely has his own agenda from what we have seen and may expect certain thing’s from Emily later on. Whatever the case Emily is very much more and more being swept up into the politics of the allied lands and she can continue being a pawn or take her place as the queen she is.

  34. Max Million June 23, 2017 at 1:08 am #

    Possible 6th year project for Emily.
    Creation of anchor stones and ward stones that can be used to detect and protect personal space rather than a building’s space. As non mages can make limited use of building wards non mages could make use of these personal wards. Another use would be to limit the magic available and usable by children so they don’t screw themselves up or anyone around them.

    Possible research project
    Investigating how the lifeforce-mages were created, able to operate and strengths and weaknesses.

  35. William Ameling June 23, 2017 at 1:30 am #

    Until Emily is a Master, i.e. passed though her apprenticeship, she will not be in a good position to interact with the White Council. So it has been the old Grandmaster and Void who have been covering her against enemies in the White Council. Gordian is to some extent covering her by not yielding to the pressures being applied to him by members of the White Council. However, I think that the White Council as a body or organization has not moved against Emily. At present they are merely concerned, which is where Void and others who know Emily are at work pointing out what she has done to HELP the Allied Lands.

    I think that a change in Houses Ashworth and Ashfall could help Emily in the White Council, but I do not know if or when it will occur. We will have to see if they will reconcile with each other and Markus and Melissa. The best chance will be further discrediting Fulvia, particularly her role in causing the Houses to split in the first place, and in fanning the hostility afterwards.

    I think that that Void’s apprenticeship offer to Emily is in a sense a threat to some of the White Council, “if you are worried about her NOW, think about what she will be like AFTER an apprenticeship with ME, if you cut her off now from Whitehall and her network of friends and supporters (p.s. you can Not stop her from becoming my apprentice). So give her a chance to grow up some more, away from my influence and maybe apprentice with someone else.”

    Part of Gordian’s problem is that no one else realizes how much control over Whitehall Emily has, and letting them know just undercuts his position even more.

  36. William Ameling June 23, 2017 at 1:38 am #

    Emily is going to have another oath problem besides to the Allied Lands and the White Council. She will her apprenticeship oaths to her Master, and she will have to worry about her Master learning about the spells, items, and ideas she has been already developing. So she almost has to choose a Master that already knows at least some of her secrets, i.e. Void, Lady Barb, or Miles, and that she thinks might be trusted with more of them.

  37. clbeam June 23, 2017 at 5:42 am #

    Gordian is a political animal. He has shown that what he want is power through influence. Like any politician he has his supporters and he need to appease them in some way. He does not want to make Emily a proper student because it is a two way oath and come with obligation for him. However this may be a great disaster for the white consul as a whole because there is nothing compelling Emily to support the white council .She would probably need to if there exists a strong relationship between the white council and white hall as they share the name white. If you look at the classes in the nameless world you have the peasants the nobles and the sorcerers. we can see that Emily has increased the value of the peasant class and now it’s threatening the nobles. There is also a increase ability of the peasants through science devaluing the magicians as a whole.

    Emily has a glaring weakness she should take care of. Her full name it printed on her library card she left in void’s tower. I wonder if her last name is la fae as she is likely a decant from merlin since she is a magician
    ps what was the demon form school of hard knocks suppose to be

    • Vapori June 23, 2017 at 8:23 am #

      Her lasst name was mentioned somewhere on the first page in the schooled in magic book, it was Sanderson.

  38. William Ameling June 23, 2017 at 12:11 pm #

    She most likely has a middle name as well which might only be an initial (or missing) on the Library card (would she be carrying a Library Card or would that information be kept only by the Library?). I think the Demons, any of them, could learn her name if they wanted. As well, at least one Demon has samples of her blood That one Demon, even knew enough about her to know her alternate futures, on Earth and the Nameless World.

    The problem with getting any info from Demons is being able to trust it, or being able make them to do it (getting it and providing it). She most likely has a Social Security Number (if she is American, which I think she is) as well and possibly other forms of ID, or even her name written inside/on any school papers, i.e. home work, school books, and the like, that she might have been carrying. Since all of this is in Void’s posession and he is the one person with the knowledge and means to possibly get more about her via other dimensional means, she better HOPE that Void can be trusted. If he is hiding his hostility of her, she is in big trouble.

    I think that Void is using her as a tool, but he does that with any one who does not any sufficient power of their own. That does not make him evil, it just means that she should be careful with him. Like I learned playing multiplayer games, one of the most useful things in a game or the real world, is the ability to get someone else to do something so you do not have to do it yourself. The stronger Emily gets, the more she can do for Void, so that he can concentrate more on his studies of Magic instead. Which we know in his own words, what he considers to be the important thing for him to do. He also considers it the best use of Emily’s time or any magician’s time. If Emily gets strong enough, VOID will probably just retire into his Tower and study magic, and let her deal with the world. This is probably true of anyone who becomes a Lone Power, and Void is almost the ideal example of a Lone Power.

    • clbeam July 5, 2017 at 1:57 pm #

      she is British she made a comment to that effect in sim #8 when comparing the respetive nations

  39. Wazman June 25, 2017 at 8:27 pm #

    I can’t wait to read the upcoming addition to the SIM series. I don’t know about anybody else here but I find your use of Prologue and Epilogues as a different perspective that isn’t always centered on Emily very interesting. It helps to set the upcoming story narrative or follow up and offers a means for us to experience what other characters think of our favorite heroine.

    With that in mind I’m curious as to what Void thinks of her? I understand that he is supposed to be a mysterious character and something even from his perspective might be too revealing. It just seems rather odd that everyone surrounding her are almost always shocked/amazed by what she can do but he never seems to be the slightest bit surprised.

    For instance if I were Lady Barb after witnessing what this young Sorceress in training was able to do with the Nuke Spell back in Work Experience. I would be very hesitant to let her out of my sight let alone have her apprentice under Void of all people.

    Speaking of which how is she (Lady Barb) going to react to this news.

    The Gordian Knot sounds like a possible means for us to get a better understanding into the machinations of the White Council with regards to Emily. I wonder if part of the problem with the Allied Lands not being able to once for all defeat the Necromancers may also be attributed to the internal politicking of this organization and Void is using Emily to force a change in it as well.

  40. William Ameling June 26, 2017 at 5:57 am #

    re Wazman’s comments:

    All quite true about the White Council and Void and Emily. However, like many, I wonder about the Dragon’s comments in Book 1 to Emily about Void and his plans. I doubt that that the Dragon knows of or cares much about internal human politics, i.e. the White Council in particular. So what was he referring to? Perhaps things that are non human in nature, i.e. Demons, Faerie, and other less identifiable groups of a trans/inter dimensional nature, as well as maybe Necromancers and their efforts such as Shadye and The Harrowing.

    An interesting question about Lady Barb: In Trial By Fire Emily left all of her notebooks with Lady Barb before her duel with Master Grey, Lady Barb did not have much time to read them before the duel, but Emily was unconscious for 2 weeks afterward, Did Lady Barb read any of them during that time, particularly about the Nuclear spell?

  41. benbailey12373 June 26, 2017 at 10:04 am #

    I wouldn’t have thought Lady Barb would have gone through her notebook while she was out of it for two weeks. That would be dishonourable and a pretty shitty thing for a friend to do!

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 26, 2017 at 2:12 pm #

      Agree.

      Emily gave the notebooks to Lady Barb in case of her death.

      Since Emily didn’t die, Lady Barb had no honorable reason to read the notebooks and thus would not read the notebooks.

      • Wazman June 26, 2017 at 7:19 pm #

        I agree too, Lady Barb would be a rather shallow person to go through Emily’s notebooks while she the healers were desperately doing everything they could to keep her alive.

      • Jared June 26, 2017 at 8:30 pm #

        I agree too, Lady Barb cares for and respects Emily. She is also wise enough to know that the knowledge in those notebooks is extremely dangerous. But at the same time Emily did give them to her. And as finicky as magical ownership is Emily had to give them over so that Master Grey couldn’t claim them if he won. So pherhaps temptation got the better of Lady Barb. I know I would have looked. Hahaha

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 26, 2017 at 8:40 pm #

        Which is why Emily won’t have given you the notebooks. 👿

      • Jared June 27, 2017 at 1:42 am #

        Ya but as I am from the same world as she, I could duplicate most of what she’s done. Besides, I think if I was in the same position I would have been far more dangerous.

      • chrishanger July 4, 2017 at 11:37 am #

        A lot of people probably could .

        I’ve tried hard to strike a balance between knowing nothing and knowing too much.

        Chris

      • Jared July 4, 2017 at 9:49 pm #

        Right , I bet that would be hard. There’s so many distractive things like nitro glycerin, mortar shells, napalm, plastic explosive etc. and then they’re simple ideas of non-military nature like hot air balloon’s and gliders, water filtration, even the differential in the drive train of a car. Simple ideas that are extremely important for development.

      • Jared June 27, 2017 at 1:43 am #

        Lol

      • FarWalker June 26, 2017 at 9:18 pm #

        Ouch! One point for Paul.

    • chrishanger July 4, 2017 at 11:35 am #

      She didn’t – they were returned to Emily after she recovered and returned to Whitehall.

      Chris

  42. Wazman June 26, 2017 at 1:07 pm #

    Don’t forget that Lady Barb had labored to teach Emily how to better protect her Grimoire and notes from intrusion. Not to say that she couldn’t with time penetrate Emily’s layered spell work but at the time she would have more pressing concerns (If Emily was going to survive the results of the duel)

    With regards to the Dragon in the first book I have to believe based on the dialogue and the simple fact that Emily had only been in the Nameless world for less than 48 hours, and from her perspective ‘her world’ should mean Earth That the Dragon was actually referring to our world instead.

    Lately I have been wondering if we are going to start see more of the future the Demon had showed her in The School of Hard Knocks

  43. William Ameling June 26, 2017 at 4:14 pm #

    The Demon showed her several possible futures or scenes from the future(s). I think one was Emily turning into a Mimic to fight a Necromancer. Another was Imaiqah dead and Melissa crying. A third was Emily kissing a boy (not Caleb) which was probably taken care of in Past Tense. A Fourth was Alassa’s Wedding and near death. There might have been some other scenes. So that leaves at least two scenes/futures. I would not be surprised to see more violence (probably involving Nanette and her hidden Master) associated with whenever Alassa becomes Queen and King Randor dies, so that probably is where/when the scene with Imaiqah happens (I HAD thought it might happen in Fists Of Justice, but it did not).

    The big question mark is the scene with Emily turning into a Mimic to fight a Necromancer, was it really Emily or just something (a Mimic) that looked like her? Would it be possible for Emily to create (or modify) a Mimic that looked like her without actually totally absorbing her mind and body (maybe it only made a copy)? Alternatively, could Emily come up with a way to return to human form after becoming a Mimic and defeating the Necromancer? Or third does she remain a Mimic using a Nexus point as a power source?

    I hadn’t thought of Lady Barb reading Emily’s notes before, while she was unconscious in Trial By Fire, but it is a possibility, perhaps not a likely one.

    But like I have said in previous messages, Emily’s Master that she apprentices under may find out a lot of her secret spell developments because of the Oath(s) she will take to him/her. Which is why it will probably have to be either Void or Lady Barb, or possibly Miles; and I think that Void has the most to teach her.

    • Jared June 26, 2017 at 8:36 pm #

      The problem with those visions is weather or not to take them literally. Even Emily thinks as much at the end of Hard Knocks. As for coming back from being a Mimic there is evidence that it’s possible. Circumstantial as it is, Master Wolf would have had to pull it off to write out the improved mimic spell.

      I think the vision you missed was the one with Emily in the middle of a pentagram ritual chained down. Although, I always thought it would be cool if it turned out the be Nannet. Think about it after Weading Hells her master told her they would have to change her appearance. How much damage could Nannet do if she pretended to be Emily. LOL

    • Wazman June 28, 2017 at 1:58 pm #

      Personally i have been pondering the meaning of the repeated phrase “There is a gaping emptiness at the heart of Whitehall” It seems odd that it was repeated at most eight times. I understand Demon’s are supposedly not like us but if I wanted to get a point across to my child for instance I would/have caught myself repeating myself. Just another observation doesn’t it seem interesting on the Emily’s guardian calls himself ‘Void’ there has to be some correlation between the two and only Chris knows why.

      • FarWalker June 28, 2017 at 4:00 pm #

        Wazman youmake an interesting observation. We will have to wait and see how Chris handles things. But you are right about the repeated statements about the gaping emptiness. And Void’s name is highly suggestive. As Robert Jordan used to say “we will see.”

  44. William Ameling June 26, 2017 at 4:19 pm #

    A Mimic that has absorbed the mind and body of a Necromancer would probably be EXTREMELY dangerous afterwards, although a Mimic already uses abilities similiar to Necromancy.

  45. William Ameling June 26, 2017 at 4:23 pm #

    If Lady Barb had read Emil’s notes, I would expect her to tell her so when she had the chance.

  46. William Ameling June 27, 2017 at 2:56 pm #

    Just because Emily is chained down does not necessarily mean it is being down against her will. There may be a reason(s) that Emily wants herself to be chained down, perhaps to make sure that her body remains in the pentagram which protects her body from forces, such as Demons, outside the pentagram somehow getting her body outside the pentagram where it will be vulnerable, during whatever is going on, perhaps some form of a ritual. Another possibility would to make sure the various parts of her body, i.e. Head, 2 Arms, and 2 Legs remain where they are positioned, i.e. in the 5 points of the Pentagram; perhaps if they moved involuntarily (or were moved by outside forces) it would disrupt the ritual.

    If Master Wolf became a Mimic and still retained his memories after absorbing that apprentice at the end of Past Tense and now had a body, copied from that apprentice, then he still might be able to write down more notes about his ideas and spells.

    • Jared June 27, 2017 at 5:41 pm #

      The pentagram ritual removes ones magic. It cuts one off from the mana and leave you powerless.

      • Wazman June 28, 2017 at 1:46 pm #

        Don’t forget that the ritual was in the book that Void had given her at the beginning of Schooled in Magic. Of course Emily could power it with a battery just by herself. If anyone knew that she could do that they would be very terrified of her.

        With that in mind I think it would have been rather interesting to see if during her duel with Master Grey if they had permitted her to have a battery what might of happened. If asked about it she could have explained that it was a wand/staff that she had made just for the duel.

  47. William Ameling June 27, 2017 at 3:47 pm #

    I have always wondered, like many, how the time loop of Past Tense got established. The only real possibility that I can see, is the actions of something outside the normal timestream(s) of the Nameless World and Earth, which basicly boils down to a Demon, i.e. the Demon that has been interacting with her on several occasions already. Possibly with some involvement by Void as well, using the Demon as a tool to accomplish it (or cooperating with it). (The problem with that idea is changing the timeline that leads to his own existence, but with enough magic on his part possibly might be feasible. Maybe his Tower is outside the changes to the timeline) (or maybe the Demon is manipulating VOID as well as Emily).

    Creating this time loop that changes history might be the very dangerous plan (of Void’s) that the Dragon referred to when talking to Emily. The problem for Void would fitting himself into a changed timeline.

    This is only wild speculation, but it is interesting to think about.

    For all we know Emily may have been substituted for a previous version (person) of the Dark Lady in the time of Past Tense. We also do not know if the time loop is stable, or changes over the various iterations (or HAS been changed by outside forces).

    Think of the Time Loop like a loop in a computer program which can be changed by the program as the inputs change, or in the case of feed back, as the outputs change as well.

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 27, 2017 at 3:59 pm #

      Thinking about “Time Loops” is IMO a good way to get a headache. 😉

      • Wazman June 28, 2017 at 1:18 pm #

        Actually Paul the assumption that time is a strict progression of cause to effect is incorrect when actually, from a nonlinear, non-subjective viewpoint, it’s more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey … stuff. btw what would you do if a big Blue Police Box suddenly appeared in your living room?

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 28, 2017 at 1:28 pm #

        Talk with the occupant about “how do I get one”. 😉

        Talk about traveling with all the comforts of home (including plenty of room for books). 😀

      • Wazman June 28, 2017 at 1:38 pm #

        Well that would be one positive aspect to traveling with the Doctor I could start reading all the currently unwritten books that Chris is going to be rolling out for SIM and etc. Of course I would have to contend with trigger happy battle tanks screaming “Exterminate!” every now and then though.

      • chrishanger July 4, 2017 at 11:44 am #

        It’s probably better not to think about it too carefully .

        It happened because it happened because it happened.

        Chris

      • Jared July 5, 2017 at 2:26 am #

        Time is actually a progression from order to disorder.

      • Wazman July 8, 2017 at 6:43 am #

        Now where is my sonic screwdriver

    • clbeam July 5, 2017 at 2:06 pm #

      I think it’s easier to think of this a dimensional hop to a parallel dimension that just so happen to be an identical representation of the nameless worlds past I would recommended a issac author multi-verse video on youtube for a better description for how this could work

  48. Pixie June 27, 2017 at 9:26 pm #

    Please hurry up. Sitting here between book series and can not find anything on amazon prime new that interest me. All my authors are mid book writing leaving me high and dry.

    • Jared July 5, 2017 at 2:27 am #

      It sucks I have to wait till September for a few books. Sigh

  49. William Ameling June 28, 2017 at 2:54 pm #

    I reread parts of Book 5 again to find the Demon and the scenes from the future for Emily. I notice one interesting problem, in Book 5 the Demon that Emily dealt with was one that was bound to Aurelius which was why she used the sample of his blood to deal with it. Similiarly, the Demon in Book 7, Trial By Fire, was also bound by Shadye to something in his Fortress and brought back by Emily and The Grandmaster to Whitehall by them by mistake (they did not realize the Demon was bound to what they brought back).

    We and Emily have usually thought of the various Demons that she has interacted with as being the same Demon, but I wonder if or doubt that the same Demon could be bound twice for the same time periods. One of those bindings seemed to be to a particlar place and object and seemed to outlive Shadye’s death. The other binding was to Aurelius’ service, which may not tie down its physical location. So we have an apparent problem to explain or need more data on. Or she is dealing with more than one Demon.

    Which also reminds me about the Books of Binding from the time of the Demon Masters, i.e. Past Tense (SIM Book 10), that came forward from the past to Emily’s present and restored time. Just how tightly bound are the Demons and those Books (and to Aurelius as well)? Can they operate independently as long as they are bound? What happens when the books are destroyed?

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 28, 2017 at 3:47 pm #

      First, there is one Demon who has obviously the “same” Demon that Emily has met before. IE the one who “helped” Emily get back to the present Whitehall.

      The Demon who Shadye bound is obviously a different one than “Emily’s Demon” although he does appear to be the one that the late Grandmaster & his brothers dealt with (ie the one who took the Grandmaster’s eyes).

      As for the Books Of Binding, Chris hasn’t gone into much detail about them but I suspect that the “Binding” is more like “speed dialing” than the Demons “locked into the Books”.

      IE With their “names” in the “Books Of Binding”, the Demon Master doesn’t need a ritual to bring them up to “do something”. The Demons aren’t “trapped” in the Books, it’s just an easier way for the Demon Master to “call them up”. Mind you, I get the idea that the Demons allowed their “names” to go into the Books so that they can easier influence the Demon Masters or anybody who has the Books.

      As for what happens if the Books are destroyed, I got the strong impression that the Books are nearly impossible to be destroyed.

      Still, something strange happened to the Books that Emily brought with her from the past.

      They don’t seem to be “active” anymore but it raises the question of “why did Emily’s Demon want Emily to bring them with her”.

  50. georgephillies June 28, 2017 at 11:21 pm #

    Gordian might think: Emily had travelled back in time, taught Lord Whitehall and the Foudners, no, become one of the founders, …

  51. William Ameling June 29, 2017 at 12:32 am #

    Well if binding them (Demons) to the Books used the blood of the human Binder magician, then after he is dead the blood binding may no longer work. As for the Books themselves, they may give a lot information on how to call up and bind Demons, as practiced at THAT time in the past. The Demon may be hoping to get more Human magicians to start calling up and binding Demons, but with old style and probably not as effective spells and rituals as a modern (Emily’s present) magician might otherwise use. Those books may also contain other magicial spells that might be considered Dark Magic by the present era magicians, or just the very inefficient versions used back then of even normal (non Black) spells.

    How effective is the replacement for the Warden of Whitehall that got destroyed back in Book 3 in terms of controlling the Wards for the School and on the Nexus point, compared to the old warden? That replacement Warden is what Gordian probably has to work through to get more control back from Emily. I have sometimes wondered if the original Warden had any connection to the original Founders of the School, i.e. may have had some of their memories or personality.

  52. William Ameling June 29, 2017 at 12:44 am #

    It is even possible that the Mimic that Master Wolf became was later used to create the (old) Warden. Which would give it the energy supply (from the Nexus Point ) to maintain it’s existence without killing more people for energy.

  53. William Ameling June 29, 2017 at 4:46 am #

    That may be true of the Books of Binding and Demons. However, I think that the binding of the Demon that Shadye did tied that Demon to a specific item/location/task which is how it was able to penetrate the defenses around the Whitehall School of Magic when that item was taken to the School by Emily and the Grandmaster.

  54. William Ameling June 29, 2017 at 11:28 pm #

    Rereading Book 5 future scenes again, unless your version is different than mine, Emily was not chained down in a pentagram, she was kneeling on a cold floor in chains and was about to have her ability to do magic destroyed by other magicians. Which sounds like a possible outcome of plotting in the White Council against her.
    Also the kissing scene does not seem to be fulfilled yet, and Alassa’s Wedding scene was different than what actually happened.

    • benbailey12373 June 29, 2017 at 11:58 pm #

      Also I think people misunderstand the mimic scene. Emily knows how to make a mimic . . . so there’s no reason she couldn’t make one that looked like her and use it to kill a necromancer!

    • Jared June 30, 2017 at 1:29 am #

      Chained down, chained, semantics. And The kissing scene was with Robin De Bold. Or so I assume. And the reason I said pentagram was because that is the ritual for removing ones magic. as for Alyssa’s wedding the demon tricked her. Again remember that the visions can’t necessarily be taken literally.

    • Jared June 30, 2017 at 1:41 am #

      I read somewhere that Chris said all but one of the prophecies where fulfilled.

      • G June 30, 2017 at 3:13 am #

        I think you all are forgetting that asking demons about the future give only possibilities, not certainties–none of these need happen…

  55. William Ameling June 30, 2017 at 3:45 am #

    I know that the actual scenes, if they happen at all, will probably be different than what Emily saw, and that the Demon deceives her by presenting them out of context. I do not think that the Gorgon scene has happened, and I am not sure that the kissing scene is close enough to apply to what happened in Past Tense. The Mimic + Necromancer scene has not happened, and the chained scene has not happened either. About the only scenes that HAVE happened is Alassa’s Wedding and the hole at the heart of Whitehall, i.e. the death of the Grandmaster. The death and destruction in the Great Hall of Whitehall may apply to what happened at the end of Past Tense or it might apply to the events of Book 1, in which it had already happened when she saw it, or it may still be open to happen.

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard June 30, 2017 at 3:52 am #

      One thing about the “Gorgon scene” to think about.

      Her people believe that the Faerie are gods but humans have reason to believe otherwise.

      If as some of us suspect, Emily will have to deal with the return of the Faerie, which side will the Gorgon be on?

      IE Do the people trying to kill/capture the Gorgon have good reasons to do so? 👿

      • Jensebaum June 30, 2017 at 9:51 pm #

        Now that is an interesting thought! It will also be interesting to see Emilys reaction should that ever happen.

      • William Ameling July 1, 2017 at 9:57 pm #

        Part of the problem in discussing something like this is that Humans and Gorgons may have different definitions of gods and other figures of unusual power. Humans might also view the Faerie as evil gods or of evil supernatural nature, while Gorgons may view the Faerie more positively because of different historical experiences.

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard July 1, 2017 at 10:10 pm #

        True.

        But my point is that Emily may find herself and the Gorgon on “different sides” in the future.

      • Wazman July 2, 2017 at 2:48 am #

        But what about the oath that Emily had to make to the Unseelie Court? I have a sneaky supicion that the dwarfs, elves, etc are just waiting for the necromancer threat to be removed before they come back. I have to believe that they have been watching from the shadows, but their return doesn’t necessary mean that they all are coming back to wipe out humanity.

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard July 2, 2017 at 3:06 am #

        Chris has said that Oath will come up in IIRC Book 18.

        One thing to think about is that Emily’s Oath was not made to the “Greater” Faerie who were more human sized and may very well be the enemies of Humans.

        The non-human species of the Nameless World were creations/slaves of the “Greater” Faerie and might become allies of Humans against the “Greater” Faerie.

        Emily and her Oath may play a factor in getting allies against the “Greater” Faerie which may involve her being in a position to “make” the Allied Lands accept the non-human species as allies.

      • Ihas July 3, 2017 at 5:13 pm #

        As far as the fae being like “gods,” we just saw a “God” born of the mimic spell or similar technique in book 12. Could it be that Justice was a newborn fae, and that humans created the original fae in the same manner? Those were old scrolls they used to make Justice, with little understanding of what they were doing.

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard July 3, 2017 at 5:16 pm #

        Chris has surprised me but I doubt that the “Faerie” were created by humans.

      • Vapori July 8, 2017 at 9:45 pm #

        I’m not sure if it was this book series, but faerie might be beings of pure magic, but maybe formed more naturally then the mimic spell or at least imbued with magic. Also there was a note in the very first book within the inverse shadow that the most frighting stature was surprisingly human just with sharp pointy ear and that an eldrich horror looked almost friendly by contrast.

        Given the fact that the old maps in whitehall before the faerie war showed jet another continent, I would asume that the faeries who survived the war live on that coninent hidden from humans to enjoy piece or waiting for the right moment. Or maybe they have problems or another conception of reality then humans do and it’s something more twisted. Or my little idea is wrong.

  56. William Ameling June 30, 2017 at 10:23 pm #

    I have started rereading Infinite Regression, and noticed two items of small interest. Emily thought, if she remembered correctly, that there were 25 fifth year students, and shortly afterwards meets Caleb’s new room mate for 5th year, named Cirroc who had been held back from the previous 5th year class. So that makes 26 students in Emily’s fifth year at Whitehall. In messages above, I had estimated in Emily’s year as having about 20 students, so I was a little low but not too far off. I do not think that we even know all of their names and genders, much less anything else about many of them. I think we may know about 12 to 15 of their names.

    • chrishanger July 4, 2017 at 11:47 am #

      I left some room for newer characters if I need them

      Chris

  57. William Ameling July 2, 2017 at 6:55 am #

    True, the Gorgons as a tribe may very well support the Faerie, and possibly even Emily’s Gorgon Friend, but I think Emily will be a lot more sympathetic to them than most humans and will try to find way (to a peaceful settlement) to help the Gorgons if a way can be found without hurting humans.

    By the way, even after Emily meet Cirroc in Book 9, she was still thinking that there were only 25 in her class when they had to split up the First Year Students for the new Mentorship program. So there may only be 25 rather than 26. But I suspect that my estimate of less than 200 students per year from all of the (5) Schools of Magic becoming apprentices is still reasonable.

  58. William Ameling July 2, 2017 at 9:40 pm #

    In previous months, after Book 9 came out and we (Emily) learned about the lost 3rd Continent, I speculated that the Faerie and possibly other Races, may have survived in intact groups there. Also like others, I have wondered if will see the Faerie become the next (renewed) threat to humans after/if the Necromancers are defeated.

  59. William Ameling July 3, 2017 at 3:22 am #

    Interesting question: are the Gorgons, as a group (tribe) or just some individuals (leaders), aware of the 3rd Continent? Perhaps there are Gorgons who are in contact between the main Continent and the 3rd Continent. This question could also be asked about other groups such Unseelie Court, or particularly, Dragons.

  60. William Ameling July 3, 2017 at 5:00 am #

    Another small quick comment, Apparently, since it seems to be starting at the end of 5th year, The Gordian Knot, will be what would normally be the summer book following 5th year and may have much of it’s action and storyline taking place away from the Whitehall School. Although at least some (or much) of it will involve Grandmaster Gordian and those trying to pressure him about Emily and the School.

    • Ihas July 3, 2017 at 4:58 pm #

      The snippet reveals that Emily failed 4 of her exams and then Smiles worked with her over the summer to prepare her to take the remedial exams, which she is due to re-sit tomorrow. In the previous book, the possibility of her having to take the remedial exams at end of summer was discussed. So I think the summer is over at the beginning of Gordian Knot.

      • William Ameling July 4, 2017 at 5:11 pm #

        The TGK snippet near the end says something like I will see you tomorrow at “Final Feast” which to means to me means end of 5th year, not the beginning of 6th year. Although I agree with you that I thought that Miles was going to help Emily study during the summer for any tests for end of 5th year that Emily failed and was going to retake before starting 6th year. If she did not do well enough on retaking those tests, she might have to repeat 5th year. Of course we do not know if she will spend much time away from school during the summer, or how much of that time during the summer Chris will show us in written form versus just looking back in summary/memory after it was done.

        So even if the prologue snippet is at the end of the 5th year, the main story being told can be 6th school year for Emily at Whitehall.

        If the prologue is at the start of 6th year, I think Gordian should refer to something like First Feast, Opening Feast, Welcoming Feast or something similar, instead of “Final” Feast. Which is more appropriate to the idea of Emily retaking the tests for 4 subjects after studying during the summer for them.

    • chrishanger July 4, 2017 at 11:48 am #

      TGK and Graduation Day are both 6th Year books.

      Chris

      • G July 6, 2017 at 6:38 am #

        It would be great if at some point Emily’s enemies tried to use a demon against her, she broke free, and she offered her enemies to the demon in exchange for freeing Grandmaster Hasdrubal…this would also allow you to show Emily’s developing ruthlessness…

      • Jared July 6, 2017 at 9:59 am #

        What good would that do Hasdrubal is dead. His body burned. Despite the dangers of dealing with demons, it would only free his soul to move on.

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard July 6, 2017 at 1:31 pm #

        In Trial Of Fire, it is said that Hasdrubal’s soul is in the hands of the Demon.

        IE His soul isn’t “free to go on”.

      • G July 6, 2017 at 10:11 am #

        That’s the point.

  61. tommalufe July 3, 2017 at 11:38 am #

    > And others are already moving against her, he thought. He’d heard rumours. Some of them had been nightmarish. What will happen when their plans come to term?

    I’ll tell you what will happen. Their plans will blow up in their faces and Emily will come out on top, as usual. I’m looking forward to it

  62. William Ameling July 3, 2017 at 12:59 pm #

    An important question about the 3rd Continent is the presence of humans, either in the present or in the past when the Map was made. They may been totally killed off by the Faerie, enslaved or completely oppressed, or driven away to the main Continent.

    • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard July 3, 2017 at 1:10 pm #

      Well, we know that the map of the third Continent was created after Emily’s visit to the Past.

      So I suspect that the Faerie’s main residence in the Nameless World was on the third Continent and the humans of the main Continent only learned of the third after they became aware of the existence of the Faerie.

      It’s unknown if humans were living on the third Continent during Emily’s visit to the Past.

  63. William Ameling July 3, 2017 at 6:12 pm #

    Given that we suspect that humans were brought to the Nameless World by the Faerie, they may have been brought to the 3rd Continent as well. Also how did humans learn about the existence of the 3rd Continent in order to put it on the world map? However, if there are ANY humans on the 3rd Continent in the present era, I suspect that they are quite powerless against the Faerie living there. They might well have all being transformed into other part human species by the Faerie there. Possibly the non (or part) human species of the main Continent, such as the Gorgons or the Unseelie Court, “might” have some knowledge about the 3rd Continent. It will be interesting to see what Emily’s Gorgon friend might say if Emily shows her the map and asks her if she knows of any stories about it, but she may not have told about it by the leaders of her tribe/group, even if they know something. Possibly the favor that the Unseelie Court will ask Emily to do might involve the Unseelie Court related groups on the 3rd Continent.

    Also remember that the historical record, what little survives, suggests that the tunnels under Whitehall were sealed shortly after the time of Whitehall and his immediate successors. So they found out about the 3rd Continent not too long (1 or 2 decades probably) after Emily left them and returned to the present. I think that humans of the time of Whitehall when Emily visited did know of the existence of the Faerie, but how much is unknown to us. Surely, they would have known something from the Demons and learning how to control them. Sealing those tunnels is probably part of why the other Nexus Points were never controlled as well as the Whitehall one.

    • Wazman July 8, 2017 at 4:06 am #

      Does anybody recall who actually knows the truth about Emily’s origin. For some reason I keep thinking that Sargent Miles may know but I’m not positive.

  64. William Ameling July 8, 2017 at 5:01 am #

    Void, Lady Barb, and the teacher that helped Emily learn how to use Magic the first day at Whitehall. Plus the original Grandmaster, now dead. I also think that Miles may know, but I am not sure of it. Also Alassa and her father King Randor, by questioning Alassa. Possibly Imaiqah. Emily’s notes that were copied by Nanette, under her false name, during 2nd year as Emily’s roommate, might give the secret away as well.

    • thehub July 8, 2017 at 10:17 am #

      all her friends know, she told them that at the end of one of the books.

      • Ihas July 8, 2017 at 11:47 pm #

        I think she also told Caleb on condition that he swear an oath on his power. He didn’t trust her, but she didn’t trust him first.

  65. William Ameling July 8, 2017 at 7:11 pm #

    I checked where I thought it might be, In the 2nd Prologue to TSA, Book 11, when Gordian is talking to Miles about Emily possibly going with Miles (as his apprentice) to the war against the Necromancer, it is clear that Miles knows Emily’s origin and he realizes that Gordian does not.

    I thought that all her friends, the ones with the original set of chat parchments, knew that she came from another world, but was not sure where to read to check it out .

    I think that one or two of her professors at Whitehall might know, particularly the Charms professor.

    • thehub July 8, 2017 at 10:36 pm #

      it was the one with the fare ( right word). the one where markus and melissa got kickt out from there families

  66. William Ameling July 11, 2017 at 12:39 am #

    I did a little rereading of Book 1, Mistress Irene, who showed Emily how to use magic, apparently does NOT know Emily is from another world. Professor Lombardi, the Charms teacher, was told by the Grandmaster that she was from another world.

    I will have to check sometime to see if the subject came up in Book 3 while she was helping to figure out what the problem was and then how to deal with it (the Mimic). It might have come up in explaining how her different point of view (being from another world) enabled her to come with new ideas that no one else would think of.

    • Ihas July 11, 2017 at 1:09 am #

      That whole mimic episode, and how Emily inexplicably cast an analysis spell on the mimic, and then concluded from its recoil that it was a spell instead of a creature, still bothers me. She makes insane guesses from ridiculously thin evidence and turns out to be right. What a charmed life.

      • chrishanger July 18, 2017 at 8:07 pm #

        She cast a specific spell by reflex – NOT one that most people would use in combat. It gave her the clue she needed.

        Chris

    • Jared July 11, 2017 at 1:41 am #

      In Chapter 15 Emily askes Mistress Irene if she can patent an idea. And after a brief explanation Mistress Irene says, “Goodness, is that how things work in your world…” I think then it’s safe to assume that she does know about Emily’s past.

      • Jared July 11, 2017 at 1:48 am #

        Book 1

  67. William Ameling July 12, 2017 at 12:29 am #

    I did NOT see any reference in the early part of Book 1 to Irene knowing that Emily was from another world, but I did not check the whole Book. Although, originally I thought that Mistress Irene DID know (but did not remember why I thought that). So thanks, for the correction. I do wonder how many of the Martial Magic teachers know, since Miles knows. Also, like I pointed out above, in Book 3 when they were trying to deal with the Mimic, others like Master Tor might have learned something more about Emily’s origin because some of her insights were derived from being from another (and nonmagical) world. Wasn’t Master Tor the year Head for Emily’s 2nd year class of students? (I think that Master Tor was the one who assigned Emily’s room mates for 2nd year and interacted with Emily several times in Book 3).

    • Jared July 12, 2017 at 1:06 am #

      I don’t believe that master tor knows. My reasoning is that Gordian brought him back which implies that their in the same political faction. I would assume that if he knew Emily was from another world he would have said something.

    • David Pollard August 2, 2017 at 5:36 am #

      I thought Irene mentioned that she knew on Emily’s second visit – seem to remember it was linked to a possible reason why Emily caught on so quickly to spell construction.

      • David Pollard August 2, 2017 at 5:46 am #

        Also in Chapter 15 – Irene is amazed at how patents “work on your world” when Emily discusses her idea commercializing the bra.

  68. David Pollard August 2, 2017 at 6:00 am #

    Was thinking that one reason Gordian hasn’t asked her to take the Oaths, is perhaps she’s *already* in breach of them. If there’s something like a non-compete clause in them – Emily’s possession of a former rival schools nexus point may make her ineligible to take the vows unless she surrenders the nexus point first.
    Otherwise can you think of why they’d let an *unOathed* student assume the role of Head Girl? (Kind of surprised this wasn’t brought up as a reason to rule her out.)

    • Jared August 2, 2017 at 9:04 am #

      Why do you think Gordian would know. Only Hasdrubal knew. Emily didn’t tell anybody.

    • William Ameling August 8, 2017 at 4:29 am #

      But the Magic Schools do have exchange Students, so there may be conflicts and or adjustments to the Oaths to the Schools for them . Oaths to the Allied Lands and White Council would not be affected by changing Schools.

      I do not think that Gordian is aware of Emily’s plans for Heart’s Eye. When she discussed her interest in being a teacher, she did not have it yet, and the discussion more along the lines of what experience she would need before she would be accepted at Whitehall, i.e. by Gordian.

      I think that only Caleb is aware of Emily’s plans for a School for Advanced Study, and I am not sure if he is aware of her (new) idea for Heart’s Eye to be the location. Any discussion of this would have had to have been during the short period of Fists of Justice.

      • William Ameling August 9, 2017 at 4:45 am #

        I was reading very near the end of TSA, Emily told Void about her and Caleb’s ideas of a new School.

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