The Election is Over …

9 Nov

The election is over. Donald Trump won.

I’ll be writing more about this later, both a post-mortem of Hillary’s political hopes – now gone – and an assessment of the future. But for the moment, I just want to share this quote from Foundation’s Edge:

The Seldon Crisis is over and it is a tradition, and a wise one, that no reprisals of any kind-either in deed or in speech -be taken against those who supported the wrong side. Many honest people believed they had good reason for wanting that which Seldon did not want. There is no point in humiliating them to the point where they can retrieve their self-respect only by denouncing the Seldon Plan itself. In turn, it is a strong and desirable custom that those who supported the lost side accept the loss cheerfully and without further discussion. The issue is behind us, on both sides, forever.”

It is something, alas, that needs to be remembered.

37 Responses to “The Election is Over …”

  1. David K Matthewson November 9, 2016 at 5:01 pm #

    We an hope.. ;}

  2. Fulvio Monti November 9, 2016 at 5:10 pm #

    (Y) !

  3. Hans Ruopp November 9, 2016 at 5:25 pm #

    Well said!

  4. thundercloud47 November 9, 2016 at 6:11 pm #

    Excellent post, Chris.

  5. FarWalker November 9, 2016 at 6:40 pm #

    I normally agree with you Chris; however, in this instance, I think the Trump justice department should follow up on the Clinton foundation corruption allegations as well as the apparent breach of US security laws through Clinton’s use of a private server. Allegations of bribery by a senior government official should never be ignored. The Trump Justice Department should also investigate the IRS and bring criminal charges where appropriate for the release of taxpayer information and the apparent targeting of conservative groups.

  6. shrekgrinch November 9, 2016 at 7:06 pm #

    “The Election is Over …”

    No, it isn’t. This is the Divided States of America. Already, all the libs I work with and live near here in the SF Bay Area are refusing to acknowledge that ‘it is over’ in any truly honest sense.

    Take a peek:

    • stafford1069 November 10, 2016 at 7:25 am #

      Press the “WAAAAaaaaaaaghhhhhhh” button.

      How come when Conservatives get elected there is always a protest (UK or US). Yet when a Socialist, Socialist-Democrat, or Trades Unionist there is not.

      Am I missing something or is there unequal treatment?

      • shrekgrinch November 10, 2016 at 2:30 pm #

        Nope. The riots (we are having riots but the thoroughly discredited media calls them protests) ate happening in blue cities.

        In their bubble, in other words.

      • david smith November 10, 2016 at 7:12 pm #

        When Obama got elected, the republicans went on an 8 year tea party protest.

  7. Gardner Friedlander November 9, 2016 at 7:53 pm #

    Hillary herself agrees with you, Chris. I quote in full an email she wrote to her supporters this morning. Gardner Friedlander

    “Thank you.

    Last night, I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. I hope that he will be a successful president for all Americans.

    This is not the outcome we wanted or we worked so hard for, and I’m sorry we did not win this election for the values we share and the vision we hold for our country.

    But I feel pride and gratitude for this wonderful campaign that we built together –- this vast, diverse, creative, unruly, energized campaign. You represent the best of America, and being your candidate has been one of the greatest honors of my life.

    I know how disappointed you feel, because I feel it too. And so do tens of millions of Americans who invested their hopes and dreams in this effort. This is painful, and it will be for a long time. But I want you to remember this: Our campaign was never about one person or even one election. It was about the country we love — and about building an America that’s hopeful, inclusive, and big-hearted.

    We have seen that our nation is more deeply divided than we thought. But I still believe in America –- and I always will. And if you do, too, then we must accept this result -– and then look to the future.

    Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead.

    Our constitutional democracy enshrines the peaceful transfer of power, and we don’t just respect that, we cherish it. It also enshrines other things –- the rule of law, the principle that we’re all equal in rights and dignity, and the freedom of worship and expression. We respect and cherish these things too — and we must defend them.

    And let me add: Our constitutional democracy demands our participation, not just every four years, but all the time. So let’s do all we can to keep advancing the causes and values we all hold dear: making our economy work for everyone, not just those at the top; protecting our country and protecting our planet; and breaking down all the barriers that hold anyone back from achieving their dreams.

    We’ve spent a year and a half bringing together millions of people from every corner of our country to say with one voice that we believe that the American Dream is big enough for everyone — for people of all races and religions, for men and women, for immigrants, for LGBT people, and people with disabilities.

    Our responsibility as citizens is to keep doing our part to build that better, stronger, fairer America we seek. And I know you will.

    I am so grateful to stand with all of you.

    I want to thank Tim Kaine and Anne Holton for being our partners on this journey. It gives me great hope and comfort to know that Tim will remain on the front-lines of our democracy, representing Virginia in the Senate.

    To Barack and Michelle Obama: Our country owes you an enormous debt of gratitude for your graceful, determined leadership, and so do I.

    To Bill, Chelsea, Marc, Charlotte, Aidan, our brothers, and our entire family, my love for you means more than I can ever express.

    You crisscrossed this country on my behalf and lifted me up when I needed it most –- even four-month old Aidan traveling with his mom.

    I will always be grateful to the creative, talented, dedicated men and women at our headquarters in Brooklyn and across our country who poured their hearts into this campaign. For you veterans, this was a campaign after a campaign — for some of you, this was your first campaign ever. I want each of you to know that you were the best campaign anyone has had.

    To all the volunteers, community leaders, activists, and union organizers who knocked on doors, talked to neighbors, posted on Facebook – even in secret or in private: Thank you.

    To everyone who sent in contributions as small as $5 and kept us going, thank you.

    And to all the young people in particular, I want you to hear this. I’ve spent my entire adult life fighting for what I believe in. I’ve had successes and I’ve had setbacks -– sometimes really painful ones. Many of you are at the beginning of your careers. You will have successes and setbacks, too.

    This loss hurts. But please, please never stop believing that fighting for what’s right is worth it. It’s always worth it. And we need you keep up these fights now and for the rest of your lives.

    To all the women, and especially the young women, who put their faith in this campaign and in me, I want you to know that nothing has made me prouder than to be your champion.

    I know that we still have not shattered that highest glass ceiling. But some day someone will -– hopefully sooner than we might think right now.

    And to all the little girls watching right now, never doubt that you are valuable and powerful and deserving of every chance and opportunity in the world.

    Finally, I am grateful to our country for all it has given me.

    I count my blessings every day that I am an American. And I still believe, as deeply as I ever have, that if we stand together and work together, with respect for our differences, strength in our convictions, and love for this nation -– our best days are still ahead of us.

    You know I believe we are stronger together and will go forward together. And you should never be sorry that you fought for that.

    Scripture tells us: “Let us not grow weary in doing good, for in due season, we shall reap, if we do not lose heart.”

    My friends, let us have faith in each other. Let us not grow weary. Let us not lose heart. For there are more seasons to come and there is more work to do.

    I am incredibly honored and grateful to have had this chance to represent all of you in this consequential election. May God bless you and god bless the United States of America.


    • shrekgrinch November 9, 2016 at 8:08 pm #

      Spoken like someone who truly does not want to go to jail, to me.

      Every other word out of this lady’s mouth is usually some sort of lie. She does it so often and for so many years, she can’t even tell the truth when it is simply more beneficial to her even.

  8. Drowe November 9, 2016 at 9:37 pm #

    As far as I have heard, both candidates have shown their best side after the results came in. But I think some people will cry foul because Clinton actually got more votes, after 99% of the votes are in she leads by about 200.000 votes. No point arguing about it, the rules are as they are, but it will certainly have some people whining about it.

    • Stuart the Viking November 9, 2016 at 9:48 pm #

      Luckily, there is precedent that the Electoral votes are what matter. This has happened 5 times in American history. Each time, the candidate with the more Electoral votes became President.

      • shrekgrinch November 9, 2016 at 10:17 pm #

        …and that is because the popular vote never has mattered.

        Which is why I keep wondering why everyone acts as if it does or has. It is a *nice to have* feature when both are in synch, sure. But that’s it.

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard November 9, 2016 at 11:03 pm #

        The Popular Vote (for President) only matters in terms of “who the States chose to support for President”.

        The US Constitution only says that the States pick “electors” who pick the next President.

        If a State government decide to not allow the population of their state to vote for the President, the US Constitution would allow it (not sure about Federal Laws).

        Of course, the voters of that State might decide to “kick the bums out”. 😉

        Now, if I were to make a change in how the President was selected, I’d make sure that the States’ electors would be “split” according to the percentages of popular votes each candidate received.

        IE if Joe gets 51% of the popular vote and Fred gets 49% of the popular votes, then the State’s electors would be divided between Joe and Fred.

        Mind you, to do that would require either changing every States’ rules or an Amendment to the Constitution. 😉

      • shrekgrinch November 10, 2016 at 1:10 am #

        “If a State government decide to not allow the population of their state to vote for the President, the US Constitution would allow it (not sure about Federal Laws).”

        There is no ‘allow’. Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 grants the RIGHT to decide how to appoint the electors solely to the state legislatures and ONLY to the state legislatures:

        “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors”

        That the states decide to let voters choose via what is really a plebiscite to decide who gets the electors is merely the states granting a PRIVILEGE to voters, much like their issuing of drivers’ licenses is a PRIVILEGE. Nothing more. It also gets the state legislators (members of the legislature) off the political hook for making a decision on the electors, which is the real reason why we have this custom in all 50 states. 🙂 Cynical but true.

        As for your proportional allotment plan, two states already do this after a fashion: Nebraska and Maine. They allocate EC delegate assignments based upon voting in each congressional district (Maine only has two), with the two extra EC delegates (as awarded for Maine’s Senate seats) left over going to the candidate who won the state’s popular vote. So in Maine just now, Clinton won 3 electoral votes, Trump won 1. She won one congressional district. Trump won the other. But since she had won the statewide popular vote, she won the two other ‘at large’ EC delegate assignments.

        I consider this superior because it ensures that people who are a political minority in a state but are a majority of their local congressional district are assured EC representation. AND, it will force candidates to campaign there. California Republicans would benefit from this greatly. California Dems would to because they would get attention other than for fundraising by Democrat presidential candidates.

        “Mind you, to do that would require either changing every States’ rules or an Amendment to the Constitution.”

        Or, another solution which is a variation of your first plan, the States can enter into an Interstate Compact to do the same too.

    • JJ Reuter November 11, 2016 at 8:05 am #

      Clinton had 58,909,774 total votes compared to Trump’s 58,864,233 and they are not done counting. Throw out the dead people, the multiple voters and the non-registered and I think the numbers would be more telling. And before I get beat on, I have actually witnessed this.

  9. Veraenderer November 9, 2016 at 10:45 pm #

    I think this day marks the end of an era. Lets hope the new begins not with a too loud bang…

  10. Sithicus November 10, 2016 at 1:14 am #

    I imagine Robert Godfrey is now on suicide watch. Feels good man.

    • shrekgrinch November 10, 2016 at 1:25 am #


      Damn! You beat me to the first RG wise-crack. I was too busy to think of one but knew I had to before someone else posted one. Damn!

      Of course, I ALREADY know what he’s gonna say — same exact thing the libtard Kool-Aide drinkers are saying like some Borg Collective on social media:

      “ALL Trump voters are racist/sexist/homophobic bigots because they voted for Trump! That is the ONLY explanation!” while ignoring the vast numbers of Democrats who simply sat this out because Shillary was as charismatic to them as John Kerry was and thus more responsible for Shrillary’s defeat than Trump voters are.

      • stafford1069 November 10, 2016 at 7:16 am #

        (Sarcasm warning) As BREXIT voter I thought only WE were the racist/sexist/homophobic bigots (you missed out retarded) going.

      • shrekgrinch November 10, 2016 at 2:26 pm #

        You have been replaced, Brextard! Deal with it! 😉

    • shrekgrinch November 10, 2016 at 1:27 am #

      There is still one chance for Godfrey: Shrillary can always delete the Electoral College votes. 🙂

      • stafford1069 November 10, 2016 at 7:17 am #

        Witty AND cruel. You’ll go far…

  11. Winter November 10, 2016 at 5:40 am #

    Time to join a Trump Youth Brigade as Trump to fight off the global Mexican Conspiracy while trump builds a wall to divide north and south America from the Texan ghetto, before enacting his Final Solution to the Illegal Immigrant Problem.

    what a fell day this is.

    • shrekgrinch November 10, 2016 at 5:45 am #

      If that was satire, it is a perfect example of how whacked the libtarded Left has become.

      If that wasn’t satire, it is an even more perfect example of how whacked the libtarded Left has become.

      • Sprout November 10, 2016 at 12:06 pm #

        While I wouldn’t have exactly put it like that myself, people do have legitimate reasons to be concerned. Trump said a lot of scary stuff during his campaign and a lot of people are waiting in quite a bit of dread of what is going to happen next.

      • Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard November 10, 2016 at 1:24 pm #

        IMO most of the “scary stuff” was over-blown by the News Media or was out-right lies by the News Media.

      • Sprout November 11, 2016 at 11:50 am #

        I’m not talking about Trump dropping nukes wherever or having the military executing families of terrorists, you know that in reality that stuff isn’t going to happen.

        I’m more concerned about the mundane stuff like him wanting to repeal EPA + other things that might concern you depending on where you stand on the spectrum. He flip-flopped so damned much that you don’t know what he was serious about and what was for effect.

        Repealing obama care would be fine on the surface, it’s a shitty reform. But that’s on the premise that there actually would be a proper replacement, or a replacement at all.

        I basically fear backsliding from what was gained (however miniscule) and now with GOP ascendant Bush era tax cuts 2.0

  12. david smith November 10, 2016 at 7:15 pm #

    Trump said a range of racist and sexist comments. They are easy to find, just google racist & sexist things trump said.

    • Stuart the Viking November 10, 2016 at 8:22 pm #

      Yea? I am curious. Can you give examples of which particular racist remarks from Trump that bother you most?

    • shrekgrinch November 10, 2016 at 8:40 pm #

      Why don’t you do it, then?

      Give us specific links.

      But you won’t. Because I think you know full well what we know: Most will be ‘news articles’ that reports he said things but offer no actual recordings or other proof thereof or when they do, it shows that they clearly misrepresented what he said or ‘re-interpreted’ what he said.

      Show us some Youtubes of him saying those mean old racist things, then.

      I mean, you contend that they exist…so show them.

  13. shrekgrinch November 10, 2016 at 8:36 pm #

    “When Obama got elected, the republicans went on an 8 year tea party protest.”

    No, David. They didn’t just ‘protest’. And when they did, they didn’t burn cars or assault Trump voters.

    They organized! So well the IRS was sent to push them down and it still does it, with the approval and consent of the GOP Establishment as well as Obama.

    So, not the same thing.

    • Stuart the Viking November 10, 2016 at 10:10 pm #


      Sorry, just got a mental image of “Tea Party” members going out, turning cars over, and stomping people. Of course, to really understand why that is so funny to me you would have to know that EVERY SINGLE Tea Party person that I personally know is a little old Christian lady (and most of them are the NICEST people you will ever meet). Yea, Grannies on the RAMPAGE!!!! (funny that ol’ David would be scared of that)

      Also, not for nothing but the Tea Party started WELL before the election, and was initially protesting the REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT not doing enough about taxes at the time. Granted, it didn’t really get all the press coverage (and derision) until after Obama was elected, but had already existed well before then.

      • shrekgrinch November 10, 2016 at 10:16 pm #

        Yes. And Tea Partiers tend to have real jobs, unlike these Millennial SWJ scum.

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